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Here is another thing I saw on another video. It might be possible that the officials did not feel the clock was started properly. So this is not just an issue of whether the shot got off in time, but if the time ran off the clock at the right time as well. Here is that video I am referring to. Another angle and uncut video from the shot to the discussion to the decision by the officials Peace
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I only referred to this rule to clear up, for rookie officials, coaches, and fans, who may view this Forum, your earlier post: "Where is the rules reference to back that up? Because there is nothing in any rule I have seen that says you can count a basket just because you are not sure. You pulled that out of the sky. That is why you have yet to show the reference yet." If your "you" is only referring to officials, you are 100% correct, there is no rules reference. However, if there is such a rule reference if "you" refers to the table crew: Rule 2-13. So socalreff didn't pull the rule out of the sky, he pulled it out of the NFHS rule book, however, he confused the officials with the table crew. |
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well people could keep arguing this for a long time and I'm sure they will back where the game took place. But here is too a great rematch whenever they have it. it's pandemonium baby. wow I spelled pandemonium right on the first try. what great speling.
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I guess if a Martian came out of the sky and shot the calling official with a laser, then we might institute Rule 2-3, but that did not take place either. It is one thing to claim something took place and reference a rule, but that is not what took place at all. And that rules reference (which he has yet to give) had nothing to do with the table officials disagreeing. The table officials were not involved at all. Peace
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My first impression was that the shot was released in time.
After watching a couple of times, I did have some doubts though. Watching the video again with some stopping at key points, and with the YouTube video, I think it is clear that the shot should have counted, and therefore Spartanburg should have won. If this event teaches anything - it is that you do need 3 officials, and that video replay is needed: high definition video replay, with frame by frame analysis. Edit: another angle, shows even more conclusively that the shot is good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01xPmkNsvwU
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And if they weren't sure, why not ask the timer? A.R. 14. In a game with no official courtside television monitor, the red light or LED lights that signal the end of the last period cannot be seen nor can the game-clock horn be heard. The officials disagree whether the ball was in flight during a try for field goal or whether a foul occurred before time expired. RULING: The final decision shall be made by the referee. The official timer shall indicate if the ball was in flight before the red light or LED lights signal was activated or before the game-clock horn sounded only when requested to do so by the referee. The referee shall use his or her best judgment; but when the evidence for counting or not counting the goal or foul is equal, the referee shall rule that the goal counts and that the foul shall be charged. In a game with an official courtside television monitor and a game clock with a 10th-of-a second display, the status of the try for goal and the committed foul shall be ascertained with the use of the courtside monitor. (Rule 2-10.15.c)
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Disregarding the fact that you're citing an NCAA rule to try and back up your argument in a situation that happened under NFHS rules, why are you trying to apply a rule that is ONLY relevant in situations where officials disagree? In the situation being discussed, the officials did NOT disagree. No rules reference cited by yourself to date has had any relevancy at all to this discussion. |
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"The officials on the court I am sure had a different take on the play and what they saw on a video."
Jeff........ typo? Unless you meant when they took a peek later. Last edited by fullor30; Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 11:17am. |
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Thanks for the link. |
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