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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 12:01pm
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Re: Re: In the Big House.

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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 12:06pm
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Wink O...HI....O!!!

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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 12:08pm
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Red face You wish.

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Go Blue...as in WindyCityBlue?

More like Go AWAY Blue!

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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 12:13pm
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Arrow Disagreement is good.

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Effective communication of your opinion is an important tool in officiating.
I think the delivery is quite important.

I encourage you to act like a judge - sit back , listen (smile occassionally when a well chosen turn of words comes your way) and control the situation. The jury recognizes the merit of the arguments.
I have been contacted too many times by the jury.


BTW - I won $100 on the Maize and Blue, so I'm starting the week in a good mood.
Is it okay for you to wager on other sports?
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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 12:36pm
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Re: Disagreement is good.

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Effective communication of your opinion is an important tool in officiating.
I think the delivery is quite important.

I encourage you to act like a judge - sit back , listen (smile occassionally when a well chosen turn of words comes your way) and control the situation. The jury recognizes the merit of the arguments.
I have been contacted too many times by the jury.


BTW - I won $100 on the Maize and Blue, so I'm starting the week in a good mood.
Is it okay for you to wager on other sports?
mick
1) Absolutely...much like a good comic or satirist, you have to HEAR the message. Too many people get hung up on the looks, voice or mannerisms and miss the thought. I don't have blinders on and don't have an agenda. But, I pick and choose my arguments carefully. Others see a name and grab the torches. Those are the ones that scare me. Blind rage obscures logic.

2) If you want to be the judge, you have to be prepared to hear complaints from the jury. It comes with the territory.

3) I was under the impression that gambling was legal in this country. I was at the ESPNZone in Las Vegas over the weekend. They've got this thing called a sports book and it was amazing. I gave some guy $50 and watched the game. A couple hours later he handed me $100! It was so cool; if you have the means, I highly recommend it.
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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 12:43pm
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I get it.

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BTW - I won $100 on the Maize and Blue, so I'm starting the week in a good mood.
Is it okay for you to wager on other sports?
mick
3) I was under the impression that gambling was legal in this country. I was at the ESPNZone in Las Vegas over the weekend. They've got this thing called a sports book and it was amazing. I gave some guy $50 and watched the game. A couple hours later he handed me $100! It was so cool; if you have the means, I highly recommend it.
Some actions that are not okay in some places are, in fact, okay in other places.
Thanks.
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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 12:52pm
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Like starting a war in another country?
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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 01:01pm
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I noticed that too.

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BTW - I won $100 on the Maize and Blue, so I'm starting the week in a good mood.
Is it okay for you to wager on other sports?
mick
I guess a D1 Umpire (???) can wager on another D1 game. I guess they do not show Baseball Umpires the same tape they show Basketball Officials at the NCAA Rules Meetings.

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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 01:10pm
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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 02:27pm
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Grasshopper, you have much to learn.

No, I did not that video. Most likely because I have not felt compelled to shell out monet to Fetch and waste a winter weekend all in hopes of a couple of crumbs. We have never been instructed to abstain from legally wagering on a any sport that we do not officiate.

I don't recall wagering on the CWS. Since none of the teams I saw made it that far and I can't affect the outcome, but I would have a problem with that, as well.

Didn't the NCAA just clear Rick Neuheisel (sp) for participating in a legal activity (March Madness pool)? Hmmm, he was fired for lying to the AD, but the NCAA cleared him because his compliance officer had told him that there was no conflict. I can't imagine that he is the only one that has ever done that.


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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 02:46pm
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Keep trying to justify it.

There are rules against betting on sports. You are an official at that level or at least you claim to be. You should not be betting on sports at that level. The NCAA cannot do much to a fired coach that is no longer with an NCAA school. They can penalize the school and that could be coming. I have not heard of the NCAA not holding anyone responsible for betting. Ask Mississippi State, they could easily come back some years and put Washington on some kind of probation.

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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 03:37pm
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Okay, you know more.

I believe your words were "You don't even work this sport, how can you tell us what to do."

Well, Jeff, I've been working Division 1 baseball for over a dozen years. I've never encountered one person that has told me that it is illegal for a baseball officials to place a legal wager on a football game. But then again, much of your advice is full of holes. I learned on the field, not at a clinic.
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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 04:13pm
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Okay, you know more.

I believe your words were "You don't even work this sport, how can you tell us what to do."

Well, Jeff, I've been working Division 1 baseball for over a dozen years. I've never encountered one person that has told me that it is illegal for a baseball officials to place a legal wager on a football game. But then again, much of your advice is full of holes. I learned on the field, not at a clinic.
It is not me you have to worry about. Just another reason you hide behind a name that disguises your identity.

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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 04:20pm
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Okay, you know more.

I believe your words were "You don't even work this sport, how can you tell us what to do."

Well, Jeff, I've been working Division 1 baseball for over a dozen years. I've never encountered one person that has told me that it is illegal for a baseball officials to place a legal wager on a football game. But then again, much of your advice is full of holes. I learned on the field, not at a clinic.
Windy;

You are right and Rut is wrong with regards to baseball. On behalf of an NCAA supervisor, I did some research a few years ago on this subject. (The reason for the investigation was that we had D1 umpire with a betting problem.) We found that there is no organized betting on college baseball with the possible exception of the CWS. Thus, baseball umpires cannot be caught up in a betting scandel ala NCAA football or basketball. Hence, NCAA felt no need to caution or discipline baseball umpires about betting whereas they make a big deal about it with football or basketball officials.

Rut is correct for basketball and football. Heavy losses on football by a basketball official might allow professional gamblers to compromise the basketball official even though his betting had nothing to do with basketball.

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Old Mon Nov 01, 2004, 04:50pm
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Okay, you know more.

I believe your words were "You don't even work this sport, how can you tell us what to do."

Well, Jeff, I've been working Division 1 baseball for over a dozen years. I've never encountered one person that has told me that it is illegal for a baseball officials to place a legal wager on a football game. But then again, much of your advice is full of holes. I learned on the field, not at a clinic.
Windy;

You are right and Rut is wrong with regards to baseball. On behalf of an NCAA supervisor, I did some research a few years ago on this subject. (The reason for the investigation was that we had D1 umpire with a betting problem.) We found that there is no organized betting on college baseball with the possible exception of the CWS. Thus, baseball umpires cannot be caught up in a betting scandel ala NCAA football or basketball. Hence, NCAA felt no need to caution or discipline baseball umpires about betting whereas they make a big deal about it with football or basketball officials.

Rut is correct for basketball and football. Heavy losses on football by a basketball official might allow professional gamblers to compromise the basketball official even though his betting had nothing to do with basketball.

Peter
Interesting, Peter.
Thanks.
mick
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