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Old Tue Mar 02, 2010, 09:11am
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Well, he did say to credit A2 with the score, not Team A. This is incorrect procedure. I can't see why it might be a problem, but it isn't what is recommended. Maybe it shouldn't count toward A2's career point total.
No, he said to put a note indicating what happened; that's all he said. Frankly, I think too many assumed the worst without actually reading what he said.
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Old Tue Mar 02, 2010, 10:16am
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No, he said to put a note indicating what happened; that's all he said. Frankly, I think too many assumed the worst without actually reading what he said.
I'm just trying to see how this differs from crediting A2 with the score. To me, a note saying A2 made the basket by definition "credits" A2 for the score. Isn't it recommended that the note only credits Team A for the score? Again, I can't see what makes any difference, but it is a valid point to argue that the OP did indeed incorrectly credit A2. If the note doesn't credit A2, what does constitute crediting A2 for the score?
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Old Tue Mar 02, 2010, 10:21am
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Frankly, I think too many assumed the worst without actually reading what he said.
Frankly, I read what he said and I didn't assume anything.

What he wrote was incorrect, rules-wise.

Field goals scored in the wrong basket get credited to the team, not a player. He credited A2 with the score, even though the score was in the wrong basket.

Players do not get mentioned in the footnote on the score sheet. It's that simple.

And to be quite honest, I could care less what representing does. I wanted to make sure everybody else knew the correct procedure by rule.

And to also be completely honest, I ain't about to to get into any stoopid, pointless argument with anybody over it either.
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Old Tue Mar 02, 2010, 10:54am
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Frankly, I read what he said and I didn't assume anything.

What he wrote was incorrect, rules-wise.

Field goals scored in the wrong basket get credited to the team, not a player. He credited A2 with the score, even though the score was in the wrong basket.

Players do not get mentioned in the footnote on the score sheet. It's that simple.

And to be quite honest, I could care less what representing does. I wanted to make sure everybody else knew the correct procedure by rule.

And to also be completely honest, I ain't about to to get into any stoopid, pointless argument with anybody over it either.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with adding extra information to the footnotes in this situation. That's all he did. He didn't say to "credit" anything to anyone.

I've shaken my head at my share of representing's posts, I just don't think this is one to jump on him over.

By all means, add the clarification that it doesn't get "credited" to any player, however.
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Representing can attest to the fact I haven't been a big fan of his posts on this site, we'ev exchanged a few private emails about my thoughts on his status in the officiating world.

That said, I think this post has been a prime example of the "eating out young" post someone made a while back. The kid handled the situation and correctly and wanted to talk about it and some of our "brethren" attack him. What makes it even more ridiculous is that some among us are so eager to attack him and prove to the world their officiating superiority that you completely changed what representing said in the orginal post. He never once said he credited A2 with the score, only to make a note who scored the phantom points that would have shown up without being credited to any player on team B. It was only a clarification note, not crediting it to A2's stats.

Some of you just amaze me sometimes with trying to impress others with your vast knowledge of this game, all the while proclaiming how you just "want to make sure others know the correct procedure."

Good job this time representing, but I still hold to our previous conversations bro
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Old Tue Mar 02, 2010, 11:20am
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Representing can attest to the fact I haven't been a big fan of his posts on this site, we'ev exchanged a few private emails about my thoughts on his status in the officiating world.

That said, I think this post has been a prime example of the "eating out young" post someone made a while back. The kid handled the situation and correctly and wanted to talk about it and some of our "brethren" attack him. What makes it even more ridiculous is that some among us are so eager to attack him and prove to the world their officiating superiority that you completely changed what representing said in the orginal post. He never once said he credited A2 with the score, only to make a note who scored the phantom points that would have shown up without being credited to any player on team B. It was only a clarification note, not crediting it to A2's stats.

Some of you just amaze me sometimes with trying to impress others with your vast knowledge of this game, all the while proclaiming how you just "want to make sure others know the correct procedure."

Good job this time representing, but I still hold to our previous conversations bro
Great points, but to me, recording in a footnote that A2 (not Team A) scored the points is crediting A2 with the points. We aren't supposed to do that.
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Old Tue Mar 02, 2010, 11:26am
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Great points, but to me, recording in a footnote that A2 (not Team A) scored the points is crediting A2 with the points. We aren't supposed to do that.
Maybe I'm mistaken (always a possibility), but I was under the impression that the player's stats were not recorded in the footnotes. It's not the same thing.
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Maybe I'm mistaken (always a possibility), but I was under the impression that the player's stats were not recorded in the footnotes. It's not the same thing.
So you say that if it isn't reflected in A2's stats it isn't credited to A2? I disagree. If the footnote says A2 scored the points, A2 was credited with the points. The points are part of Team B's stats, Team A should be credited with those points (per a footnote), not A2.
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Old Tue Mar 02, 2010, 10:42am
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No, he said to put a note indicating what happened; that's all he said. Frankly, I think too many assumed the worst without actually reading what he said.
I agree. He made a minor mistake in how the score was footnoted, but he did not at any point say A2 should be CREDITED with the basket.

And I'm one of the regular critics of representing in the forum.
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