Nate Robinson shoots at wrong basket

[Indianaref]

YouTube - Nate Robinson shoots on wrong basket, D'Antoni snaps

For new officials only: If Nate released the shot before the horn, does it count or not?

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

YouTube - Nate Robinson shoots on wrong basket, D'Antoni snaps

For new officials only: If Nate released the shot before the horn, does it count or not?

NBA - Who knows.
NCAA & NFHS - no.

[iiicream]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

YouTube - Nate Robinson shoots on wrong basket, D'Antoni snaps

For new officials only: If Nate released the shot before the horn, does it count or not?

Did he travel first?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by iiicream

Did he travel first?

NCAA & NFHS - yes
NBA - no such thing

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Indianaref

YouTube - Nate Robinson shoots on wrong basket, D'Antoni snaps

For new officials only: If Nate released the shot before the horn, does it count or not?

NBA- Horn or no horn, this is a violation as soon as he attempts the shot and no points can be awarded.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

NBA- Horn or no horn, this is a violation as soon as he attempts the shot and no points can be awarded.

Really? Interesting.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Really? Interesting.

Rule 5, Section I, Item e (from my copy of NBA rules as of Summer 2007):

It is a violation for a player to attempt a field goal at an opponent's basket. The opposing team will be awarded the ball at the free throw line extended.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Rule 5, Section I, Item e (from my copy of NBA rules as of Summer 2007):

It is a violation for a player to attempt a field goal at an opponent's basket. The opposing team will be awarded the ball at the free throw line extended.

OK, next question: have the officials been instructed to enforce this rule?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Have the officials been instructed to enforce this rule?

C'mon mbyron. You should already know this. It's the NBA. NBA officials have neither "enforce", nor do they have "rule" in their vocabulary.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

Rule 5, Section I, Item e (from my copy of NBA rules as of Summer 2007):

It is a violation for a player to attempt a field goal at an opponent's basket. The opposing team will be awarded the ball at the free throw line extended.

I think this was put in place to prevent a player from shooting at the wrong basket as time expires and affecting the game results based on the point spread.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I think this was put in place to prevent a player from shooting at the wrong basket as time expires and affecting the game results based on the point spread.

You are correct. It's the infamous "Tim Donaghy Rule".

[mathuc]

Originally Posted by SamIAm

NBA - Who knows.
NCAA & NFHS - no.

NFHS - Rule 5-2-1 & 3 - YES - it would count. There is a provision in 4-5-4 that if they start the second quarter going the wrong way (i.e. the officials make the mistake, not the player) then they just switch ends and play resumes.

I actually had a player (call him A1) get confused once on a full court press started immediately after the half. A1 caught the ball in the back court and made a spin move and drove right down the lane for a lay-up past B1. I stopped play when B1 team attempted to inbound the ball. In this case, my partner had informed both teams which direction they were going prior to the inbounds, so it was not our mistake - nullifying 4-5-4. We had the scorer make a footnote as in Rule 5-2-3 and nobody was credited for the goal. We resumed play with A2 inbounding the ball on the baseline, with all privileges (i.e. running the baseline to inbound the ball)

[Berkut]

Rule 6-7-6: Ball becomes dead when the timer sounds for the end of the period.

The exception for a try in flight only applies to a try - and a try is defined by a shot at your own basket (4-41-2).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mathuc

NFHS - Rule 5-2-1 & 3 - YES - it would count. There is a provision in 4-5-4 that if they start the second quarter going the wrong way (i.e. the officials make the mistake, not the player) then they just switch ends and play resumes.

I actually had a player (call him A1) get confused once on a full court press started immediately after the half. A1 caught the ball in the back court and made a spin move and drove right down the lane for a lay-up past B1. I stopped play when B1 team attempted to inbound the ball. In this case, my partner had informed both teams which direction they were going prior to the inbounds, so it was not our mistake - nullifying 4-5-4. We had the scorer make a footnote as in Rule 5-2-3 and nobody was credited for the goal. We resumed play with A2 inbounding the ball on the baseline, with all privileges (i.e. running the baseline to inbound the ball)

You discounted the score, or no individual player was credited? I'm not positive how you did this based on your wording here.

Also, the question you answered was, more specifically, "if a player shoots at the wrong basket and time expires while the shot is in flight, does it count?"

The answer to that question is, "No." The ball becomes dead when time expires, and none of the exceptions apply since this is not a legal try.

[mathuc]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

You discounted the score, or no individual player was credited? I'm not positive how you did this based on your wording here.

Also, the question you answered was, more specifically, "if a player shoots at the wrong basket and time expires while the shot is in flight, does it count?"

The answer to that question is, "No." The ball becomes dead when time expires, and none of the exceptions apply since this is not a legal try.

Right, right, I see your point and you are correct. If the ball had entered the basket with the clock running than your answer is Yes.

to answer your question; Yes, we counted the basket as it happened while the clock was running - no player was credited with the basket.