Questioning my T

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Clarification is part of communication. Maybe you need to work on reading comprehension before you criticize my communication skills. I had already stated that the coach asked a question before your diatribe.

You said, "Well, B coach isn't please with my call. Normally, I would ignore him and talk to my partner during the break between quarters, but, trying to take your (and others' advice), I go over to talk to him. I'm calm, I'm pleasant, I explain to him that his player jumped INTO the other player, therefore there's no foul even though there was contact."

What post was it where you said he asked a question?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by tomegun

You said, "Well, B coach isn't please with my call. Normally, I would ignore him and talk to my partner during the break between quarters, but, trying to take your (and others' advice), I go over to talk to him. I'm calm, I'm pleasant, I explain to him that his player jumped INTO the other player, therefore there's no foul even though there was contact."

What post was it where you said he asked a question?

Given the length of this thread, it is apparent that any response that suggests he might want to change things up is met with resistance. People can get a lot of good advice on this site. If they want it.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Given the length of this thread, it is apparent that any response that suggests he might want to change things up is met with resistance. People can get a lot of good advice on this site. If they want it.

Seriously, do you read any of the posts? Or do you just scan and see what you want to see.?

My initial post today on this thread was about just that. Taking advice I had gotten on here and applying it, and how it didn't do much good, but I'm not going to quit.

But, by all means, keep painting me with that broad brush you seem to value so much.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by tomegun

You said, "Well, B coach isn't please with my call. Normally, I would ignore him and talk to my partner during the break between quarters, but, trying to take your (and others' advice), I go over to talk to him. I'm calm, I'm pleasant, I explain to him that his player jumped INTO the other player, therefore there's no foul even though there was contact."

What post was it where you said he asked a question?

You're a big boy. I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find it.

[tomegun]

Yes, I am a big boy. Here are some of your highlights from this thread.

Originally Posted by fiasco

With under 30 seconds in the first half, I call a foul and as I'm reporting to the table, he is sitting down and kicks the bleacher with the back of his foot as hard as he can. I probably should have dinged him right then as we had already both warned him, but I didn't. I told him, "Coach, that's your final warning." He told me, "No, I can do that because I'm frustrated with my girls, not at your foul calls."

Yeah, right, but I didn't say anything. I was suffering from a misplaced sense of sympathy for his girls, who didn't even have an assistant coach to rely on if this clown got tossed. Shouldn't have been thinking that way, but I was nonetheless.

Originally Posted by fiasco

This is why I avoid getting in discussions with coaches. Because you don't understand the role of officials. You think my job out there is to be a robot, and call everything the way you see it, as if I have some magic goggles that allow me to see things from a coach's perspective.

If I literally enforced every rule in the book to the T (no pun intended) as you suggest, you would not recognize the game as "basketball." It would be a free-throw shooting contest.

There is a concept called advantage/disadvantage that you should really learn about. We officials have to master this concept, or we don't last long because coaches like you complain that we never let their girls "play ball."

Like I said, can't win with you guys...

Originally Posted by fiasco

I was T on the play next to the benches. He was asking why it was not a foul.

Originally Posted by fiasco

I didn't go looking.

He didn't like my call, and so he asked me about it.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Originally Posted by fiasco

You're a big boy. I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find it.

So, you made a call in front of the bench as time was expiring. He asked you about it. Remember, you was in front of his bench, his team was playing defense because it was the end of the first quarter. The quarter ends and you "go over" to talk to him because you can tell "coach isn't please with my call."

Well, if he asked you a question and you was right in front of his bench, you shouldn't have needed to go anywhere to answer his question - remember this play happened as time was expiring. But in another post you say you could tell he wasn't happy with your call, which was actually a no-call, so you go to talk to him. Where is the question in that?

Can you tell us what really happened. If we belonged to the same association and you explained this situation to me followed by telling me an evaluator said you did something on the varsity level question marks would pop up.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Well, if he asked you a question and you was right in front of his bench, .

Where did I say I was in front of his bench? Hmmm?

Reading is FUN-DA-MENTAL.

[Rich]

I'm telling ya, my biggest strides came when I realized that pleasing the coaches is near the bottom of my list of priorities.

I try to ignore comments, although I'm human and once in a while say something and then realize that the adage about pigs and mud is completely true. Coach is the pig and engaging him without a legitimate question is the mud.

Last night I couldn't help it, though. We had some fast, sloppy play and of course we're 2-person since the school couldn't find another $57.50 for us to have a third (and I don't think working boys varsity for $39 is an answer to that situation) and I call a foul at one end where the kid almost has his arm removed and then nothing on the other where a player is blocked cleanly. My next trip, I'm in the home coach's lap and he says, "I don't know how you can call a foul here and not call one there. He was all over him. How can you miss that?" And I responded with, "It was a clean block, but I can understand you not seeing that so far away." Then the ball went the other way and I was out of there and we never revisited that the rest of the night.

One day I'll put velcro on my lips.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Where did I say I was in front of his bench? Hmmm?

Reading is FUN-DA-MENTAL.

You are right. But when the OP's story changes from post to post confusion follows.

I will say this, if all of this happened in the areas where I have worked and currently work, you wouldn't be nearly ready for a varsity assignment.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tomegun

You are right. But when the OP's story changes from post to post confusion follows.

I will say this, if all of this happened in the areas where I have worked and currently work, you wouldn't be nearly ready for a varsity assignment.

Amazing how this can vary from area to area, isn't it?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by tomegun

You are right. But when the OP's story changes from post to post confusion follows.

I will say this, if all of this happened in the areas where I have worked and currently work, you wouldn't be nearly ready for a varsity assignment.

I already know I'm not ready for a varsity assignment. I don't need arrogant jackasses like you to tell me that. That's what my evaluator is for, dingleberry.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by fiasco

I already know I'm not ready for a varsity assignment. I don't need arrogant jackasses like you to tell me that. That's what my evaluator is for, dingleberry.

Commenting that someone seems unready for varsity in a certain area of the country does not qualify as arrogant, IMO.

It also seems somewhat ungracious of you to bring a situation to the board and then get defensive about many or even most of the replies. It says that you didn't want people's comments, you wanted vindication.

If you ask for comments, then take them for what they're worth. You've been here long enough to know whose opinion counts for something; others you can safely ignore. Learn what you can and move on, and don't expect vindication from everyone on the board.

On the other hand, if you're down on yourself and really need a boost, we're a community here and can discuss that issue independently. We've all screwed up, and some have useful advice about bouncing back.

You're free, as are we all, to post as you wish. But some posting experiences are bound to be frustrating and unproductive. Lashing out at posters who happen to disagree with you falls on the unproductive side.