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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 01:13pm
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Send me a note when something like this actually happens in a game of consequence...until then who cares either way. I personally have no whistle on this.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 01:20pm
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Let's Not Go To The Videotape ...

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Send me a note when something like this actually happens in a game of consequence...
Several years ago a Forum member posted a video of a college player dribbling diagonally left to right down the lane, jumping to shoot, seeing that shot would be blocked, purposely throwing the ball off the far right side of backboard (no way was it a try), catching the ball, and passing it to a teammate in the right corner for an open three pointer that was nailed.

May have been Duke, or North Carolina. I've tried several times, but I can't find the video.

Too bad I can't find it, the play was "real and spectacular" (with apologies, and a tip of the cap, to Teri Hatcher).

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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 01:31pm
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Several years ago a Forum member posted a video of a college player dribbling diagonally left to right down the lane, jumping to shoot, seeing that shot would be blocked, purposely throwing the ball off the far right side of backboard (no way was it a try), catching the ball, and passing it to a teammate in the right corner for an open three pointer that was nailed.

May have been Duke, or North Carolina. I've tried several times, but I can't find the video.
And I'm sure none of the officials were "reprimanded" in case this was wrong, or did they get it right? The point being these 1 in 20 year plays are "great" to get right if/when they happen but it seems like some officials focus on these unicorns and not enough on what actually happens in games day in and day out.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 01:40pm
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And I'm sure none of the officials were "reprimanded" in case this was wrong, or did they get it right?
It was posted for discussion purposes, don't remember an official NCAA response, just a bunch of us yapping on the internet.

Note: For some reason, I do remember Teri Hatcher on Seinfeld.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 03:10pm
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OK...
Any ball Thrown by Team A from behind the 3-Poiint arc towards their basket and gos in is counted as 3 points. NO judgement if a Pass or Try.
So any ball Thrown by Team A towards their basket and contacts the backboard is a Try.
It is a bad attempt to score, but it is an attempt
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 03:36pm
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... any ball Thrown by Team A towards their basket and contacts the backboard is a Try.
I can only wish. That would solve a few problems.

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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 04:00pm
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Send me a note when something like this actually happens in a game of consequence...until then who cares either way. I personally have no whistle on this.
I hear comments like this from officials who quite frankly have piss-poor rules knowledge. They act like they're too good to get in the books. Then all of a sudden, something unexpected happens and they don't know how to apply the rule.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 04:12pm
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I hear comments like this from officials who quite frankly have piss-poor rules knowledge. They act like they're too good to get in the books. Then all of a sudden, something unexpected happens and they don't know how to apply the rule.
I do too. Oftentimes from officials that do some pretty high level games. In fact I would say that lower level officials are much better rules book wise. There is unexpected within reality and unexpected within the world of what ifs. Knowing the rules will get you out of pretty much any unexpected jam. Over analyzing such scenarios does more to confuse. But that’s just my opinion.

If you have a scenario where officials are split go with either option absent an interpretation from an assignor. However different assignor may have different expectations. It’s not an exact science no matter how much you may want it to be.
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Old Mon Dec 03, 2018, 04:54pm
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Two cents from the soccer ref: IMHO, here are two possible values from discussing "out there" scenarios.

1. In case that once-in-a-lifetime event happens on your field (or court).
2. The "out there" scenarios force you go back to the basic underpinnings of the rules (both in a book sense and a spirit of the rule sense) to try to work toward what the right answer is.

In my view, the meaningful value in discussing weird scenarios is #2, as it expands and cements core knowledge that we might not think about all the time.
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