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not really blaming the Trail for calling it, but maybe give Lead the first crack at handling his own. And if then the Trail calls it, Lead shouldn't argue with it and only thank him later for coming to his aid. Last edited by tnolan; Wed Jan 06, 2016 at 10:38am. |
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From on officiating perspective I agree with much of the above. I understand the sentiment of having your partner's back but I think the Trail should have given the Lead another second or two to handle the situation himself. And when he comes in with the T he does so rather aggressively while stepping toward the coach. I don't think its fair to characterize it as "extreme anger/emotion" as another poster stated but I do think its fair to suggest that its not a good practice to issue a T in such a manner in this situation. A sad situation for HS basketball as a direct result of the coach's inability to control himself but hopefully a learning experience for all. |
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but take the coaches 2nd actions towards the Trail out of the case. do you still think he did so "aggressively"? i can't say he did anything wrong here, but will say he could've easily called the T from where he stood initially. |
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Here's what the original Youtube page says:
"Neshaminy and Pennsbury were in a tight game with seconds remaining in regulation. According to City of Basketball Love, a Neshaminy player was called for a charge, wiping out a layup that could've made the margin three points. That's when coach Jerry Devine lost it."
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Neshaminy (Langhorne, Pa.) basketball coach placed on administrative leave after incident with referee
By Adam Woodard, USA TODAY High School Sports January 6, 2016 Neshaminy (Penn.) boys basketball coach Jerry Divine has been placed on administrative leave after an incident Tuesday night in which he appeared to headbutt an official, knocking him to the ground while protesting a controversial call late in Neshaminy’s game against Pennbury. Early Wednesday morning the school released a statement, saying they will investigate the incident involving the referee and Divine. “The administration at Neshaminy School District is conducting a thorough review of an incident at the varsity basketball game Tuesday evening (January 5, 2016) involving coach Jerry Devine and a referee. Appropriate action was taken at the game following that incident, and further measures may follow depending on the outcome of that review. As this is a personnel matter, we will not be able to comment on the specifics of any possible disciplinary action until that review process is complete. Mr. Devine has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of that review for both his teaching and coaching positions. The athletic program at Neshaminy places the values of fair play and sportsmanlike conduct above all. We expect our coaches and staff to teach and uphold those principles, while acting in a professional manner at all times.”
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And this, my friends, is the difference between ASSAULT and BATTERY. BATTERY is normally the charge when contact is made.
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Looks like the other two officials may have had their back to their partner and the confrontation at the moment the alleged contact occurred even though at least one of those two officials saw the first official whack the coach.
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As to the play....I don't know how anyone can say the slot should have had first crack at this. This is one of the lead's bread and butter plays....secondary defender in the lane. Slot is not going to be able to see the lateral movement as well as the lead and determine whether the defender got to his spot prior to the offensive player being airborne. With the technical fouls....I agree that the trail came in too quickly with his T. I say that with the caveat that both officials are on relative equal footing (i.e experience level). I could perhaps see a CC coming in a little quicker with the T to help his younger (less experienced) partner. Otherwise. I think he needs to give partner a chance to take care of business. He doesn't do so...then by all means T him up.
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As long as we're all speculating, my thought was the T initially sprinted over to act as a buffer between the coach and the L because he didn't want the coach following the L all the way to the table. But I bet he heard something as he closed in that was T worthy and just ended up in a bad place when he felt the need to T him up. But who knows.
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and i've already said that if the Lead doesn't get the T first, then either of the other 2 should definitely have it. what i was alluding to though, hypothetically, if the coach doesn't "headbutt" the Trail, are we even talking about him coming in aggressively? |
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