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Also, and easier, and how the rule has always worked: A was not last to touch before the ball returned to the BC.
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Bob is right on both counts according to NFHS interpretations.
1. Both are BC violations because A1 when he touched the ball batted back from the FC to BC (ie ball had front court status), and A2 when he caught the pass that was deflected from the FC to BC, was the last to touch the ball after it had FC status, and the first to touch it in the BC. The reasoning behind these being BC violations is that A1 simultaneously caused the ball to be in the BC after FC and was the first to touch in the BC. Much like the ball hitting a player out of bounds--- he is the one who caused the ball to be out of bounds and thus the OOB violation on him. 2. Bob is also right that most of us disagree with this interp and reasoning as well. But it is what it is. |
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Many of us, including myself, disagree with the "Struckoff" interpretation. I do not believe one act can constitute two separate events.
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Not only two separate events but events that, by rule, must occur at different times for it to be a violation...one before it goes into the backcourt and one after. Einstein would need to be brought in to resolve the implications of the the bending of space-time that is necessary for that situation to occur.
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NCAA Casebook on this play
I don't know what the NFHS ruling is, but here is the 2011 NCAA Casebook play:
Pg 95 A.R. 229. The ball is at the disposal of Team A for a throw-in. A1 attempts to throw the inbounds pass to A2, who is located in his/her front court near the division line. (1) A1’s pass is deflected by B1. A2 leaves the playing court in his/her front court and while airborne, controls the ball, and then lands with one or both feet in the back court. (2) A1’s throw-in pass is deflected by B1. The ball bounces intoTeam A’s front court. While the ball is bouncing in Team A’s front court, it is deflected into Team A’s back court, where A3 retrieves it. (3) A1’s throw-in pass is deflected by A2, who fumbles it into the back court. A2 then goes into the back court and recovers the fumble. RULING: (1) Violation. When B1 deflected A1’s inbounds pass, his/ her legal touching caused the throw-in to end. A1, having established front-court status when he/she left Team A’s front court, gained player and team control in the air. When A1 lands with one or both feet in his/ her back court, he/she has committed a back-court violation. The exception to the back-court rules are only applicable for the player who made the initial touch on the ball. (Rule 4-68.4 and 4-3) (2) Legal. This is not a back-court violation since neither player nor team control had been established in the front court. (Rule 9-12.1) (3) Legal. This is not a back-court violation since neither player nor team control had been established in the front court. (Rule 9-12.1 and 4-3) |
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I go by a simple saying.
"First to touch, last to touch" If your team is the first to touch the ball in the BC and it was the last to touch in the FC then its a BC violation. This does not hold true for Inbounds as PLAYER and TEAM control must be met for a BC violation to be called.
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