Backcourt Violation

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Assuming A1 threw the pass from the backcourt into the frontcourt where B1 batted it back to A1 in the backcourt, there is no violation. Team A never had team control in the frontcourt. That one is not controversial...it's easy.



A still never had team control in the frontcourt, so this isn't a violation either the way you've described it. Try again.

Sure they did, TC never ceased, and the ball gained FC status.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sure they did, TC never ceased, and the ball gained FC status.

Crap, my bad. I meant player control...I changed it.

Neither are a violation either way.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Crap, my bad. I meant player control...I changed it.

Neither are a violation either way.

Also, and easier, and how the rule has always worked: A was not last to touch before the ball returned to the BC.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Crap, my bad. I meant player control...I changed it.

Neither are a violation either way.

Originally Posted by mbyron

Also, and easier, and how the rule has always worked: A was not last to touch before the ball returned to the BC.

PC in the front court was not required until they jacked up the rule this year.

[dahoopref]

I don't know what the NFHS ruling is, but here is the 2011 NCAA Casebook play:

Pg 95

A.R. 229. The ball is at the disposal of Team A for a throw-in. A1 attempts
to throw the inbounds pass to A2, who is located in his/her front
court near the division line.

(1) A1’s pass is deflected by B1. A2 leaves the playing court in
his/her front court and while airborne, controls the ball, and then
lands with one or both feet in the back court.

(2) A1’s throw-in pass is deflected by B1. The ball bounces intoTeam A’s front court. While the ball is bouncing in Team A’s front
court, it is deflected into Team A’s back court, where A3 retrieves
it.

(3) A1’s throw-in pass is deflected by A2, who fumbles it into
the back court. A2 then goes into the back court and recovers the
fumble.

RULING:

(1) Violation. When B1 deflected A1’s inbounds pass, his/
her legal touching caused the throw-in to end. A1, having established
front-court status when he/she left Team A’s front court, gained player
and team control in the air. When A1 lands with one or both feet in his/
her back court, he/she has committed a back-court violation. The exception
to the back-court rules are only applicable for the player who made
the initial touch on the ball.
(Rule 4-68.4 and 4-3)

(2) Legal. This is not a back-court violation since neither player nor
team control had been established in the front court.
(Rule 9-12.1)

(3) Legal. This is not a back-court violation since neither player nor
team control had been established in the front court.
(Rule 9-12.1 and 4-3)

[bob jenkins]

I don't know what the NFHS ruling is, but here is the 2011 NCAA Casebook play:

same rulings in NFHS.

[deecee]

I go by a simple saying.

"First to touch, last to touch"

If your team is the first to touch the ball in the BC and it was the last to touch in the FC then its a BC violation.

This does not hold true for Inbounds as PLAYER and TEAM control must be met for a BC violation to be called.