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Old Mon Jan 03, 2011, 02:14am
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Backcourt violation?

Team A has control in front court. Team A passes ball and and Team B tips it. Team A then tips it before it goes into back court and retrieves ball. I called back court violation. Is this correct? I believe I saw this situation in a video once.
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2011, 02:32am
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Criteria for backcourt violation:

1. Team control
2. Ball gains front court status
3. Team in control is the last to touch the ball before it enters the backcourt.
4. Team in control is the first to touch the ball after it gains backcourt status

If you have all four criteria met, you have a backcourt violation
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2011, 12:53pm
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To answer your question given what APG posted.... good call!
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Old Mon Jan 03, 2011, 04:21pm
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Backcourt violation.

I know this because I had a no-call in a very similar situation in a 9th grade game a couple of weeks ago. I looked it up in the casebook after the game (I don't have the casebook number handy unfortunately) and realized that I was in error.

Definitely won't forget that rule again.
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 02:08pm
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NCAA Ruling

I read this in the NCAA casebook the other night and found this interesting. It's a little different scenario from the OP since this is from a throw-in:

The ball is at the disposal of Team A for a throw-in. A1 attempts
to throw the inbounds pass to A2, who is located in his/her front
court near the division line. A1’s pass is deflected by B1.
A2 leaves the playing court in his/her front court and while airborne,
controls the ball, and then lands with one or both feet on the back court.

RULING: Violation. When B1 deflected A1’s inbounds pass, his/
her legal touching caused the throw-in to end. A1, having established
front court status when he/she left Team A’s front court, gained player
and team control in the air. When A1 lands with one or both feet in his/
her backcourt, he/she has committed a backcourt violation. The exception
to the backcourt rules are only applicable for the player who made
the initial touch on the ball
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(Rule 4-68.4 and 4-3)
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 02:12pm
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I read this in the NCAA casebook the other night and found this interesting. It's a little different scenario from the OP since this is from a throw-in:

The ball is at the disposal of Team A for a throw-in. A1 attempts
to throw the inbounds pass to A2, who is located in his/her front
court near the division line. A1’s pass is deflected by B1.
A2 leaves the playing court in his/her front court and while airborne,
controls the ball, and then lands with one or both feet on the back court.

RULING: Violation. When B1 deflected A1’s inbounds pass, his/
her legal touching caused the throw-in to end. A1, having established
front court status when he/she left Team A’s front court, gained player
and team control in the air. When A1 lands with one or both feet in his/
her backcourt, he/she has committed a backcourt violation. The exception
to the backcourt rules are only applicable for the player who made
the initial touch on the ball
.
(Rule 4-68.4 and 4-3)
That play would be ruled similarly under NFHS rules.
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Old Wed Jan 05, 2011, 04:05pm
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I had the way that exception is written. In fact, be for the "Editorial Clarification" a few years ago, this was not a violation. The exceptions existed but were worded differently. The way they WERE worded permitted a team that gained team control in the air (on or following a throwin or through a steal or after a shot) to land in the backcourt without risk of violating. That was much more sensible. They rewrote the rule to clarify it and completely changed it. The current rule doesn't make much sense, but it is what it is.
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