Team Control during a free throw?

[FrankHtown]

A1 is on the free throw line to shoot 2 shots. While holding the ball (ball not released yet) A2, in the lane, pushes B2. Since the shooter A1 is holding a live ball inbounds, but the clock has not started, does team A have team control? If so, is the foul a team control foul on A2? Does the foul by A2 kill the shot, like if an offensive player commits a foul before the ball is released, you kill the play. Does A1 still get two free throws? Or is the first one gone, and we award the second?

[ChuckElias]

A1 is on the free throw line to shoot 2 shots. While holding the ball (ball not released yet) A2, in the lane, pushes B2.

Frank, assuming you meant "along" the lane (if A2 was in the lane, then we have a violation first and disregard the foul unless it's intentional or flagrant), this is a team control foul. It does not "cancel" (for lack of a better word) A1's FTs. Clear the lane, shoot the FTs, then give the ball to B on the endline for a spot throw-in. If Team B is in the bonus, they will not shoot FTs.

[FrankHtown]

Follow up: If the ball had been released, then there is no team control, and B would shoot free throws if they were in the bonus?

Thank you for the edititng. I did mean along the line.

[truerookie]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Clear the lane, shoot the FTs, then give the ball to B on the endline for a spot throw-in. If Team B is in the bonus, they will not shoot FTs.

Chuck, can you be kind and explain why B is not able to run the endline? Is it because of the TC status? clarification please.

[Lotto]

Originally posted by FrankHtown
Follow up: If the ball had been released, then there is no team control, and B would shoot free throws if they were in the bonus?

Right.

Thank you for the edititng. I did mean along the line.

You did type "edititng" on purpose, didn't you?

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by truerookie

Chuck, can you be kind and explain why B is not able to run the endline? Is it because of the TC status? clarification please.

I think B gets to run the end-line. 7-5-7

[Lotto]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

I think B gets to run the end-line. 7-5-7

NCAA 7-5.7 only applies to fouls that are committed after a successful goal. Since the foul here occurs before the try is successful, 7-5.7 does not apply.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

I think B gets to run the end-line. 7-5-7

Even if A misses the second shot?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Lotto

NCAA 7-5.7 only applies to fouls that are committed after a successful goal. Since the foul here occurs before the try is successful, 7-5.7 does not apply.

7-4-1c
8-4-1a

[truerookie]

TC, decides DS throw-in whether FT's are successful or not. Is that safe to say.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by truerookie
TC, decides DS throw-in whether FT's are successful or not. Is that safe to say.

Actually, the only thing team control decides is whether B shoots FT's or not; it doesn't help determine if the throw-in is a spot or endline throw-in.

[truerookie]

Originally posted by M&M Guy

Actually, the only thing team control decides is whether B shoots FT's or not; it doesn't help determine if the throw-in is a spot or endline throw-in.

I am trying to collect my bearings on this situation. The foul occurred while A had team control(at FTer disposal). since a foul occurred while A1 had control. "A1" will finish his/her FT's and B will get a DS throw-in regardless if the FT's are successful or not. Correct?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by truerookie

I am trying to collect my bearings on this situation. The foul occurred while A had team control(at FTer disposal). since a foul occurred while A1 had control. "A1" will finish his/her FT's and B will get a DS throw-in regardless if the FT's are successful or not. Correct?

Forget TC.

What happens if there's a foul during the FT before the bonus?

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Forget TC.

What happens if there's a foul during the FT before the bonus?

Exactly. B gets to run the baseline if the last FT is successful, and it's a spot throw-in if the last FT is unsuccessful.

See FED cases 4.19.8, 4.19.9A, 7.5.7F

[Lotto]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

Exactly. B gets to run the baseline if the last FT is successful, and it's a spot throw-in if the last FT is unsuccessful.

See FED cases 4.19.8, 4.19.9A, 7.5.7F

...as long as the foul is committed by teammate of the free-thrower at a location closer to the endline than to the sideline. If the foul is committed by an opponent of the free-thrower or at a location closer to the sideline, then the throw-in will be a designated spot throw-in. (The original post had the foul committed by a teammate of the free-thrower along the lane, so B would retain the right to run.)