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Old Sun Jan 10, 2021, 12:00pm
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I was thinking it, didn't want to post it, but did anyhow.

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... illegally dribbles (feet not moving) a second time ...
Reminds me of the "academic" debate we've had many times here on the Forum about whether to call an illegal (double) dribble immediately as the ball is released from the ball handler's hand for a subsequent (illegal) dribble (by definition of starting a dribble); or to wait until the ball hits the floor, bounces, and is touched again by the ball handler (maybe the act was the start of a bounce pass).

Rule language and interpretation language comes in lots of different flavors. Some like vanilla. Some like chocolate. Some like strawberry.

It all depends on what flavor is preferred in Rome (where one is assigned games and works).

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Old Sun Jan 10, 2021, 04:17pm
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Agree, but if the feet move in the manner of a travel while carrying the ball but the player does eventually dribble again, but you call a travel, you're going to get the same grief. The "carry" in that case is the travel, but no one calls it a travel, they call it a carry.
I'm not disagreeing with that. That's why I stated earlier that if a player travels while palming the ball in between dribbles, it's an easier sell to give the palming signal.

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Old Sun Jan 10, 2021, 05:11pm
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... if a player travels while palming the ball in between dribbles, it's an easier sell to give the palming signal.
Agree. That's why it's described in the rulebook and on the signal chart.
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Old Sun Jan 10, 2021, 05:33pm
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Agree. That's why it's described in the rulebook and on the signal chart.
I understand that. But that's not what happened in the video.

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Old Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:26pm
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But that's not what happened in the video.
Agree. I gave carry/travel a half a thought on his hesitation dribble before he even got near the lane (left hand), well before his pivot move, then almost immediately decided, "No, ain't a carry. Not even close".
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2021, 02:13pm
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Disclaimer: Below is not a NFHS interpretation, it's only an IAABO International interpretation which obviously doesn't mean a hill of beans to most members of this Forum.

IAABO International Play Commentary: This is a traveling violation. The pivot foot may be lifted, but not returned to the floor, before the ball is released on a pass or try for goal. (4-44-3a). In this play, the ball handler establishes the right foot as pivot foot, then lifts the pivot foot and places it back to the floor before jumping to attempt the try.

Note: About 1/3 of IAABO members (including me) that commented on the video thought it was a legal move.
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