2019-20 NFHS: Rumors/Desires?

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by SC Official

The only thing the RA would lead to, in my area, is incorrect player control fouls and coaches going nuts. We have 20- through 40-year officials that haven't been to a camp or done any self-improvement in decades and aren't trained to officiate from the feet up. They're not going to change overnight and some never will change.

There is nothing the RA can solve at the high school level that can't be solved by correctly adjudicating block/charge plays under the basket as the rule is now, and defaulting to PC on 50/50 plays.

A solution whose only problem is "because college."

Then why did Minnesota and North Dakota choose to implement this rule on their own? Did they consciously seek to copy college basketball, or did they have their own reasons for doing so? Maybe they thought that having people standing in close proximity to the basket and choosing to get themselves run over was such a safety problem that they needed to address it with a rules change, or they might have enough competent officials in those parts to not make a mess out of the restricted area.

I haven't seen many people post about changing the bonus rules. This is surprising, because it is at least the 2nd straight year that changes to the bonus rules appear in the questionnaire.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Then why did Minnesota and North Dakota choose to implement this rule on their own? Did they consciously seek to copy college basketball, or did they have their own reasons for doing so? Maybe they thought that having people standing in close proximity to the basket and choosing to get themselves run over was such a safety problem that they needed to address it with a rules change, or they might have enough competent officials in those parts to not make a mess out of the restricted area.

I haven't seen many people post about changing the bonus rules. This is surprising, because it is at least the 2nd straight year that changes to the bonus rules appear in the questionnaire.

Why don't you go ask people that are involved with those two states? I have no idea why those states made that decision, nor do I care.

Conveniently, you don't mention the fact that 48 other states have not found it necessary to go against the NFHS on this (and 42 states on the shot clock matter). Why do those 2 (8 for shot clock) states have it right?

I don't really care about resetting fouls each quarter and getting rid of 1-and-1. However, everyone I know in NCAA-W loves it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Why don't you go ask people that are involved with those two states?

Do we have any Minnesota officials here on the Forum?

Unfortunately, none of the twelve guys that officiate basketball in Northern Dakota post regularly on the Forum. All twelve still have "Dial-Up" internet.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

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I haven't seen many people post about changing the bonus rules. This is surprising, because it is at least the 2nd straight year that changes to the bonus rules appear in the questionnaire.

Have you ever considered that you are in the minority regarding this? Or maybe officials just don't care one way or the other.

Or have you ever considered there are a lot of veteran officials in this forum who have seen all kinds of rule change proposals that never panned out or came to fruition and simply just don't care what is implemented, just that everything is clearly spelled out by the time preseason clinics start.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Then why did Minnesota and North Dakota choose to implement this rule on their own? Did they consciously seek to copy college basketball, or did they have their own reasons for doing so? Maybe they thought that having people standing in close proximity to the basket and choosing to get themselves run over was such a safety problem that they needed to address it with a rules change, or they might have enough competent officials in those parts to not make a mess out of the restricted area.

Neither of those states is hotbeds for basketball. Honestly, do not care what those states do any more than I would care what other states do about some rule they want to try. But the NF makes rules that everyone is supposed to agree upon to some extent. And I work college basketball and I really do not care what college basketball does as it relates to high school basketball. I have worked multiple sports over the years and all those sports had different rules from the college ranks. Somehow we function.

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I haven't seen many people post about changing the bonus rules. This is surprising, because it is at least the 2nd straight year that changes to the bonus rules appear in the questionnaire.

If they change it great, if they don't great. Not something that really is going to change the game that much IMO. Oh, college is reluctant to change this rule as well. So should we follow their lead?

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Then why did Minnesota and North Dakota choose to implement this rule on their own? Did they consciously seek to copy college basketball, or did they have their own reasons for doing so? Maybe they thought that having people standing in close proximity to the basket and choosing to get themselves run over was such a safety problem that they needed to address it with a rules change, or they might have enough competent officials in those parts to not make a mess out of the restricted area.

Neither of those states is hotbeds for basketball. Honestly, do not care what those states do any more than I would care what other states do about some rule they want to try. But the NF makes rules that everyone is supposed to agree upon to some extent. And I work college basketball and I really do not care what college basketball does as it relates to high school basketball. I have worked multiple sports over the years and all those sports had different rules from the college ranks. Somehow we function.

The State of Illinois has had again this year another player that was in the Final Four that had played high school ball from here. That was the case the last two years that the title game had a team with a player from the IHSA. If my state is not clamoring for all these college rules and the players are functioning at a higher level, I am not convinced we need to change rules just to prepare someone for college.

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I haven't seen many people post about changing the bonus rules. This is surprising, because it is at least the 2nd straight year that changes to the bonus rules appear in the questionnaire.

If they change it great, if they don't great. Not something that really is going to change the game that much IMO. Oh, college is reluctant to change this rule as well. So should we follow their lead?

Peace