2019-20 NFHS: Rumors/Desires?

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

[*]20 second reset after offensive rebounds.

This will be a DISASTER with JuCo/small college tables.

Are all shot clocks even capable of having two different live-ball reset options?

Also I find it funny what you said about blarges. They literally had one in the first round of the tournament this year.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

This will be a DISASTER with JuCo/small college tables.

Are all shot clocks even capable of having two different live-ball reset options?

Also I find it funny what you said about blarges. They literally had one in the first round of the tournament this year.

"Blarges" used to be very common and they are not as common anymore. I did not say or it was not said they never happened. BUt when people get so in their feelings about why that requirement is not removed, this is why. Bottom line they have stats on this issue and said it was proven they have gone down since the emphasis.

Also if there are officials that were to be chosen for the NCAA Tournament based off of one or two things and things like not stopping the clock was considered, he would pick someone else. So it matters if the boss says they want you to do something and you say it is silly and do not do it. Kind of how a lot of things work. Again, I am just passing along information.

Peace

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by SC Official

This will be a DISASTER with JuCo/small college tables.

Are all shot clocks even capable of having two different live-ball reset options?

Also I find it funny what you said about blarges. They literally had one in the first round of the tournament this year.

Daktronics shot clocks do have 2 reset options. Newer Nevco models also have 2 options, as do Fair-Play models. Daktronics shot clock controllers have Reset 1 and Reset 2 buttons, Fair-Play shot clock controllers have 2 buttons as well, and the newer Nevco shot clock controllers that look like a small walkie-talkie also have separate buttons for each shot clock reset value (a controller can have up to 3 values saved). This means that reseting to 30 or 20, and keeping the shot clock running, should not be an issue, as long as the operator does not press the start-stop button to stop the shot clock while it is being reset.

Note: I have been an ECO, mostly with Daktronics scoreboards with shot clock capabilities. I know how Daktronics scoreboards work, less so about Fair-Play and Nevco (reading through the scoreboard operation manuals).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

... reading through the scoreboard operation manuals.

I've been officiating basketball for almost forty years, and as much as I hate to admit it, I have never read a scoreboard operation manual, not even one, certainly not more than one.

I hang my head in shame.

[ilyazhito]

It could be useful, especially with clueless scoreboard operators, or when I need to make a correction. If I want to tell a scoreboard operator to correct the fouls, score, or time, I can say "Set Main Clock, 5, 0, 0, Enter" to set a Daktronics scoreboard to 50.0 seconds and "Set Shot Time, 1,7, Enter" to set the shot clock to 17 seconds (or Recall Shot Time), if the scoreboard has such an option). Different scoreboard companies have different setups, and different areas use different scoreboard types (In my area, a lot of high school and college scoreboards are Daktronics units, but some junior college scoreboards are Nevco units, with a few Fair-Play scoreboards in Virginia), so it is useful to know at least the basics of scoreboard operations for the different type of units.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

It could be useful, especially with clueless scoreboard operators, or when I need to make a correction.

The most involvement I've had with scoreboard operators regarding operation (not an on/off, early/late time issue), is when the scoreboard shows 0:00 and the horn hasn't sounded. I ask, "Is the automatic horn on?" If yes, we play a little more basketball. If not, they turn it on. Horn sounds, period's over; horn doesn't sound, let's play a little more basketball.

About a half dozen times in almost forty years.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

Daktronics shot clocks do have 2 reset options. Newer Nevco models also have 2 options, as do Fair-Play models. Daktronics shot clock controllers have Reset 1 and Reset 2 buttons, Fair-Play shot clock controllers have 2 buttons as well, and the newer Nevco shot clock controllers that look like a small walkie-talkie also have separate buttons for each shot clock reset value (a controller can have up to 3 values saved). This means that reseting to 30 or 20, and keeping the shot clock running, should not be an issue, as long as the operator does not press the start-stop button to stop the shot clock while it is being reset.

Note: I have been an ECO, mostly with Daktronics scoreboards with shot clock capabilities. I know how Daktronics scoreboards work, less so about Fair-Play and Nevco (reading through the scoreboard operation manuals).

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It looks like you have found your true calling, GAME CLOCK MAVEN.

Probably a lot easier to get games at a high level and I hear the gig pays well.

Strongly encourage you to pursue this avocation...

[ilyazhito]

It would be a blast to work with or as a shot clock operator, but I'd rather be an on-court official.

Still, it would be cool to see a shot clock show up nationwide on the high school level. It has been a positive experience for me so far working shot clock games in DC. Restricted area won't be too bad, if officials are willing to adjust their block/charge calls and are not afraid to call charges when warranted. As other users noted, I would welcome more, and more descriptive signals in high school basketball, to neither be castigated for using unapproved signals, nor to be a doofus for using only approved signals, when those are insufficient for the situation at hand .

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

It would be a blast to work with or as a shot clock operator, but I'd rather be an on-court official.

Still, it would be cool to see a shot clock show up nationwide on the high school level. It has been a positive experience for me so far working shot clock games in DC. Restricted area won't be too bad, if officials are willing to adjust their block/charge calls and are not afraid to call charges when warranted. As other users noted, I would welcome more, and more descriptive signals in high school basketball, to neither be castigated for using unapproved signals, nor to be a doofus for using only approved signals, when those are insufficient for the situation at hand .

Change for change's sake. None of this is necessary, or even desired, to make the high school game better.

And changing to quarters in men's college basketball is just dumb and there's no reason whatsoever to do it.