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Old Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:12am
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change where they removed socks from the logo restriction.
JRutledge is 100% correct. It was an actual NFHS rule change, socks were removed from the logo restriction in 2000-01. Socks were listed under logo restrictions for the four previous years, maybe longer since my rulebooks only go back to 1996-97 (I've officiated since 1980).

I'm not going to quibble about this being a sock restriction, or a logo restriction, it's still a nice ancient citation. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is still the king of ancient citations, but JRutledge is a formidable challenger.
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Old Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:37am
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JRutledge is 100% correct. It was an actual NFHS rule change, socks were removed from the logo restriction in 2000-01. Socks were listed under logo restrictions for the four previous years, maybe longer since my rulebooks only go back to 1996-97 (I've officiated since 1980).

I'm not going to quibble about this being a sock restriction, or a logo restriction, it's still a nice ancient citation. Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. is still the king of ancient citations, but JRutledge is a formidable challenger.
Do I get a new house now or just cash?

BTW, that was the year I started. IJS.

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Old Wed Apr 24, 2019, 10:45am
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Do I get a new house now or just cash?
How about door number two?

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Old Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:30pm
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Feasible?

Question: How feasible would it be to suggest that the NF mandate that any player who participates while wearing Rx eyeglasses--must also wear a support band that prevents said Rx eyeglasses from falling off during live ball action?

Maybe make such restraining bands a definite part of the "legally equipped to participate" aspect?

I've had 8th grade girls & boys games whose glasses are flopping off when they get slight contact or just due to perspiration. Even had a case where a kid's glasses were stepped on and broken in the paint.
As an official I've come to question the courtesy [if not legitimacy] of halting play to allow them to pickup Rx eyeglasses.
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Old Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:35pm
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Question: How feasible would it be to suggest that the NF mandate that any player who participates while wearing Rx eyeglasses--must also wear a support band that prevents said Rx eyeglasses from falling off during live ball action?

Maybe make such restraining bands a definite part of the "legally equipped to participate" aspect?

I've had 8th grade girls & boys games whose glasses are flopping off when they get slight contact or just due to perspiration. Even had a case where a kid's glasses were stepped on and broken in the paint.
As an official I've come to question the courtesy [if not legitimacy] of halting play to allow them to pickup Rx eyeglasses.
The argument against it is likely safety ("what if someone's hand gets caught in the croakie?").

Also, today is the last day of the Rules Committee meeting.
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Old Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:19pm
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This is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. I would suggest having sports goggles on hand for those athletes who need glasses, and avoid this entire issue, but this is not a solution that can be mandated by the NFHS Rules Committee.
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Old Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:02pm
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Also, today is the last day of the Rules Committee meeting.
Just like Christmas Eve.
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Old Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:09pm
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The argument against it is likely safety ("what if someone's hand gets caught in the croakie?").

Also, today is the last day of the Rules Committee meeting.
Aren't there sports straps that do the trick?

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Old Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:13pm
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Aren't there sports straps that do the trick?

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Old Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:02am
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Or A Nun In A Bikini ...

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Do I get a new house now or just cash?
Just be happy with this:

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JRutledge is 100% correct.
It's a rare as a diamond. Cherish it.
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Old Fri Apr 26, 2019, 11:09am
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Kind Mit Dem Bade Ausschütten (German Proverb)
From my grandmother, who was a Hesselmeyer, right off the boat.

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Old Sat Apr 27, 2019, 10:29am
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It's a rare as a diamond. Cherish it.
It is not about being right, it is about what happened. That happened and I remember it because I was an official. Was not trying to debate, you were. I was just stating what I remembered and folks like you always have to challenge what people know or remember to be right.

Now back to my camp games.

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Old Sat Apr 27, 2019, 11:56am
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Was not trying to debate, you were.
Pretty difficult to debate a fact.

Facts are often binary. It's an apple, not an orange. Five times three equals fifteen, not sixteen.

You remembered correctly and you were right.

I, and at least one other Forum member, remembered incorrectly, and we were wrong.

It was easy to get closure on the sock issue (where there's a will, there's a way), about ten minutes of research through some old rulebooks.

That's the best part about this Forum, if there's a fact (citation, rule, interpretation, etc.) out there, it will eventually see the light of day.

Someone will remember something, the issue will be researched, and the truth will lay bare.

Unfortunately, it's not always that easy.

Sometimes the NFHS complicates the issue by using imprecise, incomplete, contradictory, or untimely language, that's when we have debates, often with no closure.

Then, of course, there are local differences in the way we do things.

Different isn't always better, or worse, sometimes it's just different.
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Old Tue Apr 30, 2019, 10:31am
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*) Eliminate captains meetings. A totally, unnecessary time waster.
*) Meet both coaches simultaneously. This would be a nice time saver and prohibit the chance of perceived bias/favoritism. If still have captains, have them attend this meeting too.
In my state the captains meeting is mandatory, as well as having the coach initial the official scorebook, At the captains meeting both head coaches are required to attend
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Old Tue Apr 30, 2019, 11:25am
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In my state the captains meeting is mandatory ... At the captains meeting both head coaches are required to attend
Same here in Connecticut.

A few years ago we were having some problems with head coaches attending.

Our state interscholastic sports governing body made these meetings mandatory, and if the head coach refuses to attend the pregame meeting, the referee is notify the assignment commissioner, who will contact the state interscholastic sports governing body, who will contact the school's principal.

Then, the coach gets called down to the principal's office.

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