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[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by RefsNCoaches

I've given two official warnings this year and was met with "Then call it both ways" immediately after...so there were two of my Ts on Coaches this year.

That's more or less what happened in my situation a week or so ago.

On another occasion, I remember hearing a coach muttering something nice meant for me to hear while reporting the official warning to the table, and, since protocol doesn't require or imply the reporting official to move away opposite tableside, I looked directly at him and said sternly, "It would be in your best interest to stop talking right now."

He still probably doesn't realize how "nice" of a guy I am and much grace I extended him.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

On another occasion, I remember hearing a coach muttering something nice meant for me to hear while reporting the official warning to the table, and, since protocol doesn't require or imply the reporting official to move away opposite tableside, I looked directly at him and said sternly, "It would be in your best interest to stop talking right now."

And that's the way it should be. The official that gives the warning should be the one to handle the business that follows if necessary. I work with some partners who want to go away from the table after they give a warning. Why? If the coach chooses not to heed the warning, that is 100% on him. Handle your business or don't warn.

[deecee]

I only use it after a coach has said the same thing over and over followed with a "Ive heard you, and it's enough, so let's move on." or if a coach is coming onto the court followed with a "please return to your bench and I'll come to you."

other than that the only reason I have to use it is when communication has failed and i'm over a coach's behavior. The T is close to follow.

[deecee]

I've always found that good coaches knew when they reached their limit, especially after I have told them to their face that I've reached my limit to their behavior and antics.

The more inexperienced and/or crappy coaches don't take to such obvious clues and then act surprised when they get T'd up.

In the end if you are at your wits end with a coach let them know. If they continue it shouldn't be a shock that they got a T. I have gone so far a couple times with coaches that act like jerks in Q1 to say "I'm not going to tolerate this behavior for 3 more quarters." I'm not scared to follow that up with a T if/when they push it.

I don't believe in coddling adults. Heck I don't believe in coddling children.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by deecee

I have gone so far a couple times with coaches that act like jerks in Q1 to say "I'm not going to tolerate this behavior for 3 more quarters." I'm not scared to follow that up with a T if/when they push it.

I did that late this season with a coach who notoriously complains/yells all game long. First quarter, loose ball, his kid dives on it and they (he and his ASSistant) wanted a push off on the other kid. The other kid didn´t do anything illegal to that point so I had nothing. Other team player jumps on top of that kid and they both stand up yelling at me. I had hit my whistle to call the foul, but they were so busy yelling that they didn´t hear it. I just said to him ¨Coach, that will be the last time that happens. You and your assistants won´t be raising your voice at me or officiating this game tonight.¨ He acted incredulous and told my partner ¨He can´t talk to me like that.¨ My partner said ¨He can, and he did. You´ve been warned.¨ He was fine the rest of the night.

[#olderthanilook]

Good on you AND your partner for backing you up. The latter (in general) is not always the case.

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I did that late this season with a coach who notoriously complains/yells all game long. First quarter, loose ball, his kid dives on it and they (he and his ASSistant) wanted a push off on the other kid. The other kid didn´t do anything illegal to that point so I had nothing. Other team player jumps on top of that kid and they both stand up yelling at me. I had hit my whistle to call the foul, but they were so busy yelling that they didn´t hear it. I just said to him ¨Coach, that will be the last time that happens. You and your assistants won´t be raising your voice at me or officiating this game tonight.¨ He acted incredulous and told my partner ¨He can´t talk to me like that.¨ My partner said ¨He can, and he did. You´ve been warned.¨ He was fine the rest of the night.

[SC Official]

Younger coaches, in my experience, are the ones who don't "get it" when it comes to their behavior. They expect to be treated like royalty, act surprised or like they didn't deserve it when they get warned/whacked, say stupid things like "you can't talk to me like that," and take longer to move on after getting stuck. Overall, that demographic is just not as behaved as their older counterparts in my opinion.

We have some young varsity head coaches around here that are some of the worst-behaved coaches that I deal with, and back in my small college days I also dealt with a few young headcase coaches.