6 on the Court -- unnoticed...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Not quite.
This is exactly what I would use to justify a penalty after a made goal with the clock running and the ball dead prior to the ensuing throw-in. You don't know how the sixth man got out there, but this is a time during which he cannot have entered legally and he got out there somehow, so a penalty is justified.

Which player are you penalizing in that case?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Which player are you penalizing in that case?

Camron knows which questions to ask.

For those who don't know, his point is that a substitute technical is charged to the individual team member, not just the team, so the calling official must identify a specific offender.

I see three legit ways of determining this info.

1. Consult with the scorer who BY RULE is to track the team members who start the game and enter as substitutes. If he is doing this task, you can discern who was already in the game and who wasn't. If not, proceed to #2.

2. One of the six must now depart and go to the bench. Whack whomever the team elects to remove.

3. Sometimes they give it away. "Joey, what are you doing? You are out!" Whack that one.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

1. Consult with the scorer who BY RULE is to track the team members who start the game and enter as substitutes. If he is doing this task, you can discern who was already in the game and who wasn't. If not, proceed to #2.

I don't know that many scorers record who is or is not in the game aside from marking them as having participated in a quarter. If there is a player on the floor who had not been previously marked as participating in that quarter, you could get that info. But, if all the players had previously been in and one returned, you wouldn't be able to tell.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

One of the six must now depart and go to the bench. Whack whomever the team elects to remove.

Rule citation please.