Fellow ref riding crew as spectator

[Adam]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

I absolutely hold officials to a higher standard when they are watching games as fans because they should know better, plain and simple.

And there is no reason to be passive aggressive. Deal with the issue head on. Tell the guy you didnt appreciate how he behaved during the game and you have a reasonable expectation of not dealing with that BS from a fellow official. If he disagrees then tell him you'll adress it with the assigner. Our assigner would let the official know of the standard we have here for treating fellow officials even as a fan.

Ive been a fan and a coach. I know how emotional people can get and how easy it is to go off on the officiating but I also, am an official. And know how difficult the job is and what it entails. So I keep that in mind when I'm watching a game in a different capacity. And I think its more than fair to expect fellow officials to do the same, especially those within the same association.

Honestly, my only difference with this is the fact that I'm going to the assigner regardless. Not because I'm afraid to deal with the jack-ass, but because I know he's done it before and will do it again. It needs to get dealt with from top down, not from the bottom up.

I'd also add that he's not as well-respected as the OP may think if he's doing this.

Additionally, when an official acts like this, those around him will typically know he's an official and will take their cue from him. I'm getting rid of that element, but others may certainly do it differently.

[BlueDevilRef]

Since he is a ref, I would have addressed it with him at first chance. A simple statement of "you are one of us and you know better" should solve the problem quickly.

[Raymond]

I would have told him "I've seen you officiate, I really don't think you should be talking"

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[udbrky]

How well can you talk with a whistle in your mouth? "I'm not going to come to your next game and act like this. I expect you to extend the same courtesy."

If he won't remedy his actions, I'd mention it to your assignor. Fans/coaches/players know who we are. You act like that, and it sets an example that no official should ever set.

This is one area where it's nice to become friends with more experienced officials in your crews. It helps learn how to deal with this imo.

Had a similar situation this summer.

Worked a couple baseball games with a coach that made it known he's an umpire and would argue calls here and there - not enough to warrant an EJ, but enough to annoy you.

Then this fall, I worked with him. When I put it together who he was, I was nervous, I didn't know if he would be a jerk on the field, try to step on my calls or what. Turned out to be a different guy.

Talked to others, he's just like that when he coaches - just a real ******* who argues a bunch, and he does it because he likes it.

[Hawkeyes]

I'd talk to him, the school AD and your association person responsible for member conduct.
If this parent/official did this to you, he's doing it or will do it to another official; and the AD needs to have a heads up for the next time... and make him sit in the stands.
When you see the parent/official: "What did you think of my game the other night? Any feedback?" Then ask him, can I give you some feedback?: Don't stand near the court and chirp at the officials. I'm sure the association expects more from a veteran official like yourself and I won't allow you to do that during my games in the future.
Then do your millennial thing: drop the mic!

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I would have told him "I've seen you officiate, I really don't think you should be talking"

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And the award for best post of the year goes to.......

BNR for this post!!!!!!