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Fellow ref riding crew as spectator
I had a BJV game tonight in which a ref from our association had a kid playing. He was standing near the corner of the baseline and every time on that end I blew the whistle (or didn't, depending on the team), he's just all over me. Yelling loudly enough for the whole gym to hear (and it got pretty loud for a JV game). Nothing inappropriate or profane or personal, he was just being an a$$hole. To his fellow officials from the association.
Most of it was toward me and I did a decent job of tuning him out (I'm 24 but I'm no rookie--this is my fifth year of officiating), but I knew he said something to one of my partners too. This guy is a decently-respected official in our association too, and I've seen him on-court at several big games. I know it wasn't personal, but it's not okay. I can't really say I've felt more disrespected as an official in my short career. And frankly I don't care if your kid is playing. I don't care about your kid. I'm not in this for the kids. There's no excuse for an official to be acting that way, even if they have a vested interest in the game. I didn't feel the need to get game management involved, but I did send an email to our association president and asked him to send an email to everybody reminding them that there are certain ways we should act at games. Appropriate response? |
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Is that a trick question? Zoned it out like normal. But that's just it. He's representing our association regardless of whether he's in stripes and it's embarrassing to the association IMO. And not to sound too blunt but I really don't appreciate being treated that way by someone I may work with one day.
Last edited by RedAndWhiteRef; Tue Dec 20, 2016 at 09:42pm. |
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I don't let fans stand next to the court and berate me. If there's room in the stands (which I assume there was for a JV game), I'd tell game management to put him in the stands.
And yes, send an email to whoever is in charge in your association. No legitimate association would tolerate that s*it from its members. |
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Your 24 and I'm assuming he is older and more entrenched as an official so I understand your reluctance to deal with him during the game...but if he's yelling or harassing you every time down you should have dealt with him. "Your a referee, you should know better." If he keeps up. Toss him.
Now it's easy to say that now. What should you do at this point? Notifying assigner is fine and association. At the next meeting I'd make a point to find him and tell him "saw you at game the other night. Surprised the hell out of me the way you, a fellow referee acted. Screaming... I didn't and don't appreciate it. " You can stop there and see what he says. If he apologizes, up to you to accept or not.?If he's a jerk, tell him "I should have addressed it then I won't make that mistake again." I wouldn't just leave it up to the association or assigner. He did it to you. He's likely a bully. Let him know politely, but very firmly that you did notice it and it isn't ok. That's what I'd tell you. Good luck. (Take BNR with you just in case) Last edited by BigCat; Tue Dec 20, 2016 at 10:31pm. |
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See what your assigner or association says they think you should do. Or ask someone more experienced in that association. They know the lay of the land. I would like to see you call him out but that might not be the best thing for you to do. Last edited by BigCat; Tue Dec 20, 2016 at 11:12pm. |
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As for an official that acts as a fan, I would treat them as such. I would most likely have a smart a$$ remark like BNR had. But I don't hold anyone to any higher standards than just do your job. I'm not going to treat him any different because hes a "ref". At that moment he's a fan. If I do see him and care to say anything after the game I would make a smart comment about all fans being so ignorant of the rules and that they should read a rule book. This is about the only time passive aggressive works.
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Anyway I just got a call from my assignor and he said it would be addressed. I didn't tell him who it was but he figured it out pretty quick when he saw what game it was. |
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I would have given him the courtesy of a quiet warning, and his response would dictate the way I proceed.
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If it bothers me to the point where it was affecting my job I would address it at that point. I.e. tell game management to either check his attitude or remove him.
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And there is no reason to be passive aggressive. Deal with the issue head on. Tell the guy you didnt appreciate how he behaved during the game and you have a reasonable expectation of not dealing with that BS from a fellow official. If he disagrees then tell him you'll adress it with the assigner. Our assigner would let the official know of the standard we have here for treating fellow officials even as a fan. Ive been a fan and a coach. I know how emotional people can get and how easy it is to go off on the officiating but I also, am an official. And know how difficult the job is and what it entails. So I keep that in mind when I'm watching a game in a different capacity. And I think its more than fair to expect fellow officials to do the same, especially those within the same association. |
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