No such thing as a timing play?

[socalblue1]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

That wasnt my question, my question was the term "continuation play" vs "timing play not existing in OBR" comment made by an long time 18U American Legion coach and a scorekeeper.

You little leaguers are going off in the wrong area. I thought perhaps the term was different or some other aspect of which I was not aware. I scored the run based on exactly what you quoted... which btw, does not include the term "timing play"

essentially checking nomenclature or perhaps a rule involving a "continuation play" of which I was not aware.

Question has been answers though, and thanks to those who did.

Uh huh ... "Timing play" is the ONLY correct answer. Please advise just where the term "Continuation play" appears in the OBR rules relating to scoring.

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by socalblue1

Uh huh ... "Timing play" is the ONLY correct answer. Please advise just where the term "Continuation play" appears in the OBR rules relating to scoring.

The only place I heard "continuation play" was in basketball.

bob

[SAump]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

The only place I heard "continuation play" was in basketball.
bob

The coach may have been using the right terminology to describe the next immediate play after the 3rd out was made; while at the very same time, incorrectly applying a rule that does not exist; e.g. counting the run after an advantageous 4th out has been made at 1B.
"If the action is continuing and the tagged base is a "force" base, the defense makes the appeal merely by "stepping on the missed base."
A continuation play, in the proper context of the rules, is acceptable to the baseball community.

[SAump]

A coach runs out of the dugout to argue a call and incorrectly quotes a rule that does not exist {e.g., see OP}. You calmly try to explain your reasoning and he loudly disagrees. He is not listening to your argument, he is only trying to show you UP {slang term}. Would you immediately eject him?

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SAump

A coach runs out of the dugout to argue a call and incorrectly quotes a rule that does not exist {e.g., see OP}. You calmly try to explain your reasoning and he loudly disagrees. He is not listening to your argument, he is only trying to show you UP {slang term}. Would you immediately eject him?

I don't know about others might handle it, but depending on how he came running out of the dugout he just might find himself on the way to the parking lot. I'm not fond of coaches who run at me to argue a call.


Tim.

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

I don't know about others might handle it, but depending on how he came running out of the dugout he just might find himself on the way to the parking lot. I'm not fond of coaches who run at me to argue a call.


Tim.

Even if they stay outside the baselines? What difference does it make if they run, walk or roll as long as they stay outside the lines?

I find coaches who run to the lines funny, like a carnival show, always brings a smile to my face.

[RPatrino]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Even if they stay outside the baselines? What difference does it make if they run, walk or roll as long as they stay outside the lines?

I find coaches who run to the lines funny, like a carnival show, always brings a smile to my face.

Fitty, you allow coaches to run out of the dugout in your games? What does staying outside the lines have to do with it?

My training and experience, while probably not as extensive or adequate as yours, has taught me that without the benefit of asking for time and having it granted, a coach who runs out onto the field to argue is at risk for an early exit.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by fitump56

Even if they stay outside the baselines? What difference does it make if they run, walk or roll as long as they stay outside the lines?

I find coaches who run to the lines funny, like a carnival show, always brings a smile to my face.

WTF do the baselines have to do with it? There's nothing that says "arguing in foul territory is allowed but arguing in fair territory isn't"

Running at the umpire is often interpreted as "showing up the umpire" (if not all by itself, then in conjunction with other acts). A manager who runs / charges at the umpire is going to have a shorter leash than one who walks out to discuss the play.

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by SAump

Would you immediately eject him?

What's faster than immediately?

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

The only place I heard "continuation play" was in basketball.

bob

I never heard the term until this thread, which is why I asked this board. I'm glad I asked. I wish I had known it is a basketball term (cant stand basketball, so I would never have heard of it) at the time of the convo with the coach. I woulda had a good laugh.

[greymule]

What's faster than immediately?

How about instantaneously?

[waltjp]

Originally Posted by greymule

What's faster than immediately?

How about instantaneously?

Good one. I'll buy it.

[greymule]

Greymule's posting said "However, if after the tag, F5 still had time to get the BR at 1B, he could have done so for a fourth out and nullified the run." That is NOT an appeal play, so your quote of OBR 7.10 - and all the other manual pages - is irrelevant. He's saying in his "however" - unless I misunderstand, and he wants to clarify - that the defense made the equivalent of a 5-3 play for this 4th out.

That's right. The defense made a 5-3 play for the 4th out. I agree that this would not be an appeal. It's just a 5-3 out. However, I think there was once (quite a while back by now) a question about this, and it merited an "approved ruling" or something.

Please tell me that teams, noticing a BR has stopped running to 1st in this sitch, throw to F3 to claim an appeal of a "missed base," or try to say the last out is a force, and thus the run doesn't count.

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here. If the defense threw to 1B in time and got a fourth out before the BR arrived, no runs could score on the play. Since I had injected softball earlier, I will say that in ASA softball, the defense cannot get this out at 1B if there are already 3 outs.