Possible 2 out timing play

[rleakins]

I had the below situation at a high school game. I ruled no run contiues play on the batter no force out.

2 outs r1 on first, B1 at the plate, ball hit in gap, R1 rounds third touches home. B1 is thrown out at 3rd. Is this a timing play? and does the run score. High School rules.

[thumpferee]

Originally posted by rleakins
I had the below situation at a high school game. I ruled no run contiues play on the batter no force out.

2 outs r1 on first, B1 at the plate, ball hit in gap, R1 rounds third touches home. B1 is thrown out at 3rd. Is this a timing play? and does the run score. High School rules.

Yes this is a timing play!

If R1 touched home before the out on BR at third, the run would score. If the out occured before R1 touched home, which seems impossible in this situation, the run would not score.

Seems you blew this one, live and learn. I'm sure it won't happen again, right rleakins?

[mikebran]

This is like watching car crashes. I know I shouldn't do this..... but.. can't... help.... myself....

WHAT possible reason did you have for NOT COUNTING R1's run on your play... ? This is the R1 who SCORES, gets to the dugout, and has sucked down half a Gatorade, before the B-R is thrown out at 3rd...

Hope the scorekeeper had an eraser.

[rleakins]

Is this considered a timing play? Is your answer pertainting to major league or high school rules?

[thumpferee]

Originally posted by rleakins
Is this considered a timing play? Is your answer pertainting to major league or high school rules?

Yes this is a timing play and yes this pertains to any rules of baseball as far as I know.

[LDUB]

Originally posted by rleakins
Is this considered a timing play? Is your answer pertainting to major league or high school rules?

Yes it is a timing play under all rule codes.

[rleakins]

Thank you for your assistance. I was unable to find it in a rule book.

I have another question? why does it become timing?

[thumpferee]

4.09 - HOW A TEAM SCORES
(a) One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first, second, third and home base before three players are put out to end the inning.

This is the rule of LL. It is the only rule book I have on disc to quote you.

To further try and answer your question, there is no force play involved. It now become a matter of what occured first, hense timing play. Out then touches, no score. Touches then out, count the run. TIMING PLAY!

I want to add, put a rules book in your bathroom. If you are like me, you could read the whole thing in one sit down!

[Edited by thumpferee on Apr 18th, 2005 at 06:22 PM]

[jicecone]

Originally posted by rleakins
Thank you for your assistance. I was unable to find it in a rule book.

I have another question? why does it become timing?

I believe ALL codes read about the same. The run counts if the runner touches home plate before the third out of the inning is made, except if the third out was a "force out", or an out by the batter-runner before he touches first base.

The key word is "before", which dictates the time it happens, and therefore, "a timing play".

[Edited by jicecone on Apr 18th, 2005 at 06:24 PM]

[rleakins]

Thanks to all who responded. I was confused on how this had become a timing play. Now I understand.

ya I screwed the pooch on that one. Won't do that again.

Thanks again.