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Old Sat Jul 19, 2008, 07:58pm
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Sorry Dave,
We just disagree with ASA rules with a HR. Since it is not clear, until we hear something we are going to disagree.

The other stuff, well if you do not adjust, again we agree to disagree.
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 10:30am
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The other stuff, well if you do not adjust, again we agree to disagree.
The only adjusting that needs to be done is your approach to umpiring the game. Period. You are there to umpire, not to make the game the easier on yourself.
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Old Sun Jul 20, 2008, 11:04am
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Sorry Dave,
We just disagree with ASA rules with a HR. Since it is not clear, until we hear something we are going to disagree.
I think ASA is as clear as they need to be on this. The ball has already touched the ground (or some other object) in dead ball territory. The ball is dead. At this time, the runner assistance rule only pertains to a live ball situation.

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The other stuff, well if you do not adjust, again we agree to disagree.
I may adjust my positioning behind F4. I may adjust my set position on a shorter batter. I may even adjust my cup between innings.

I do not adjust my calls just because I want to get a game over faster. Why should I be in such a hurry?
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Old Mon Jul 21, 2008, 07:39am
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I think ASA is as clear as they need to be on this. The ball has already touched the ground (or some other object) in dead ball territory. The ball is dead. At this time, the runner assistance rule only pertains to a live ball situation.



I may adjust my positioning behind F4. I may adjust my set position on a shorter batter. I may even adjust my cup between innings.

I do not adjust my calls just because I want to get a game over faster. Why should I be in such a hurry?
Maybe you shouldnt be ... after all it could always be a rain delay ... with the saying ... "and Four and a half hours later"
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Old Mon Jul 21, 2008, 10:42am
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It's great to see so many speaking out about not changing because of game situations. I hate that idea and although I sometimes joke about rainy 7th innings and games over the time limit , I hope no one thinks I mean it.
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Old Mon Jul 21, 2008, 10:57am
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It's great to see so many speaking out about not changing because of game situations. I hate that idea and although I sometimes joke about rainy 7th innings and games over the time limit , I hope no one thinks I mean it.
Sadly, though, apparently some folks really DO mean it. That still just blows me away.
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Old Mon Jul 21, 2008, 11:57am
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Sadly, though, apparently some folks really DO mean it. That still just blows me away.
Joking about such things is common among just about any umpire group at any tournament. I never even considered any of it to be serious talk, just good natured ribbing of the poor slob who had the 4 tie-breaker 20 minute innings in a 10U game!

Unless, of course, you're talking about time-shaving in Seattle!
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Old Mon Jul 21, 2008, 12:36pm
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Joking about such things is common among just about any umpire group at any tournament.
But we have to be careful. I once got in trouble for making that kind of joke with my partner which was overheard by a spectator who told a coach.
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Old Mon Jul 21, 2008, 08:07pm
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Joking about such things is common among just about any umpire group at any tournament. I never even considered any of it to be serious talk, just good natured ribbing of the poor slob who had the 4 tie-breaker 20 minute innings in a 10U game!

Unless, of course, you're talking about time-shaving in Seattle!
Exactly, I'll be the first umpire to give another umpire crap for "letting a game" go to tie breaker (or anything delaying).

It doesnt mean i would ever make a call to prevent a game from going to tie breaker.

Of course, if I was in seattle, I wouldnt mind shaving off a few minutes to prevent it.. since its so common the coaches expect it and dont even ask about time .
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