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Forum: Baseball Thu Jun 29, 2017, 07:08pm
Replies: 5
Views: 1,099
Posted By greymule
That makes sense. Strike 3 got away from F2, but...

That makes sense. Strike 3 got away from F2, but the batter (for some reason) stayed in the box. R2 took 3B on the passed ball. However, F2 recovered the ball with time enough to throw to 1B to get...
Forum: Baseball Thu Jun 29, 2017, 05:05pm
Replies: 5
Views: 1,099
Posted By greymule
Thanks for responding, robbie. You interpreted...

Thanks for responding, robbie. You interpreted the actual Dodgers-Angels situation, and that might well be the call. I don't know how they scored it. But take a look in the abstract at the situation...
Forum: Baseball Thu Jun 29, 2017, 04:12pm
Replies: 5
Views: 1,099
Posted By greymule
Error?

It's been almost a decade, but I have returned to ask a question generated by the recent game-ending uncaught third strike in the Dodgers-Angels game.

No outs. Called strike 3 on the batter gets...
Forum: Baseball Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:48am
Replies: 17
Views: 2,496
Posted By greymule
About ten years ago this play engendered a very...

About ten years ago this play engendered a very long thread on this board. As I remember, the instruction that the umpire change the award to 3B if the runner retouches appeared after that.
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Forum: Baseball Mon Jul 18, 2011, 12:48pm
Replies: 60
Views: 7,114
Posted By greymule
To me, this isn't a "neighborhood" play. When a...

To me, this isn't a "neighborhood" play. When a fielder is pulled off the bag by a wide throw, how much he's pulled off is irrelevant.

I always considered the neighborhood play to be one in which...
Forum: Baseball Sat Jul 16, 2011, 09:05pm
Replies: 11
Views: 1,644
Posted By greymule
There are also those cases where two codes word...

There are also those cases where two codes word the rule similarly but interpret it differently. I'm thinking of R2 stopping in front of F6 on a ground ball and then proceeding just before the ball...
Forum: Baseball Sun Jun 19, 2011, 09:10am
Replies: 13
Views: 1,892
Posted By greymule
"I recall one where a coach was caught not...

"I recall one where a coach was caught not playing a child who was not very talented. He walked in a run in order to avoid a slaughter rule just so the kid could bat in the fifth inning."

If I'm...
Forum: Baseball Sat Jun 11, 2011, 06:57am
Replies: 20
Views: 2,932
Posted By greymule
Good article, especially for general fans to...

Good article, especially for general fans to appreciate the difficulty of the work umpires do. Even mentions the 7.01 wording.
Forum: Baseball Sun May 29, 2011, 10:18am
Replies: 52
Views: 6,468
Posted By greymule
They are paid to play and risk injury. They are...

They are paid to play and risk injury. They are entertainers.

Entertainers to the fans, I guess. But to the owners, the players are, as Jim Bouton said, farm animals.
Forum: Softball Sat May 28, 2011, 12:28pm
Replies: 28
Views: 3,323
Posted By greymule
I have so many of those awards, I've dedicated an...

I have so many of those awards, I've dedicated an entire trophy case to them in the basement.

Once a coach awarded my partner WOE honors in the morning, and then gave them to me in the afternoon....
Forum: Baseball Sat May 28, 2011, 11:39am
Replies: 52
Views: 6,468
Posted By greymule
I think it's simply that they, like most players...

I think it's simply that they, like most players and coaches, were ignorant to the rules when they were in high school.

When I was playing in school and college (1964-1970), I thought I knew a lot...
Forum: Baseball Fri May 27, 2011, 10:57am
Replies: 52
Views: 6,468
Posted By greymule
He implied that injuring a "dirty" player was a...

He implied that injuring a "dirty" player was a goal of many other players.

I think that's true. Since the rules didn't penalize dirty play, the players exacted justice themselves.

In 1964, in...
Forum: Baseball Fri May 27, 2011, 08:30am
Replies: 52
Views: 6,468
Posted By greymule
When you watch the old MLB films, you can see...

When you watch the old MLB films, you can see that at one time practically nothing was prohibited—case after case of obvious intentional interference, with little or no effort to disguise it....
Forum: Softball Mon May 16, 2011, 09:45am
Replies: 3
Views: 1,164
Posted By greymule
Right, NCASA. In ASA, a BR or runner can...

Right, NCASA. In ASA, a BR or runner can intentionally touch and thus render foul a ball that is in foul territory, even if it has a chance to become fair. I don't know about USSSA, but in NCAA such...
Forum: Softball Sun May 15, 2011, 09:23am
Replies: 12
Views: 1,600
Posted By greymule
A few years ago, I had a 26-25 score in a SP...

A few years ago, I had a 26-25 score in a SP game…

after the first inning.
Forum: Baseball Fri May 13, 2011, 11:46am
Replies: 22
Views: 2,859
Posted By greymule
The example I was given (long ago) was: R2,...

The example I was given (long ago) was:

R2, left-handed pull hitter up. Defense puts 3 infielders on the right side, leaving only F5 in normal position. Batter hits a hard ground ball that hits R2...
Forum: Baseball Mon May 09, 2011, 06:36pm
Replies: 28
Views: 3,410
Posted By greymule
You guys are too hard on McCarver. He meant...

You guys are too hard on McCarver. He meant simply that by not touching the ball, the outfielder (and the Reds) avoided being charged with an error.

Maybe we are hard on him, but that's wrong,...
Forum: Baseball Mon May 09, 2011, 09:38am
Replies: 28
Views: 3,410
Posted By greymule
You guys are too hard on McCarver. He meant...

You guys are too hard on McCarver. He meant simply that by not touching the ball, the outfielder (and the Reds) avoided being charged with an error.
Forum: Baseball Wed May 04, 2011, 08:21am
Replies: 31
Views: 3,779
Posted By greymule
I agree with mbyron. A few steps toward 2B...

I agree with mbyron. A few steps toward 2B doesn't constitute "missing" 3B. If he gets close to 2B, you have a much better case.

Even then, we have the legal "skunk in the outfield" play and other...
Forum: Baseball Tue May 03, 2011, 10:45am
Replies: 23
Views: 4,130
Posted By greymule
If the BR is put out at 1B before R2 misses 3B,...

If the BR is put out at 1B before R2 misses 3B, then that out removes the force on R2.

If the BR is put out at 1B after R2 misses 3B, then that out does not remove the force on R2.

Yes,...
Forum: Baseball Tue May 03, 2011, 07:25am
Replies: 23
Views: 4,130
Posted By greymule
and I think that interp is true in all codes ...

and I think that interp is true in all codes

Don't tell me that even in OBR some outs remove forces and others don't!

If so, the J/R errs in saying, "If a consecutive runner has been forced to...
Forum: Baseball Mon May 02, 2011, 07:58pm
Replies: 23
Views: 4,130
Posted By greymule
Maybe only live action outs on following runners...

Maybe only live action outs on following runners remove forces on preceding runners who miss bases. If that is so, then my example (and the BRD's) would be correct, and so would the case play...
Forum: Baseball Mon May 02, 2011, 01:26pm
Replies: 23
Views: 4,130
Posted By greymule
Play: Bases loaded, one out. The batter triples....

Play: Bases loaded, one out. The batter triples. R1 missed second and the batter-runner missed first. The defense successfully appeals against the batter-runner, then R1. The appeal out of the...
Forum: Baseball Sun May 01, 2011, 10:13pm
Replies: 23
Views: 4,130
Posted By greymule
Peruse is an interesting word. It originally...

Peruse is an interesting word. It originally meant to examine in detail; scrutinize but now simply means to read carefully or thoroughly; study. However, peruse was so often used ironically that it...
Forum: Baseball Sun May 01, 2011, 09:51pm
Replies: 27
Views: 3,674
Posted By greymule
"Does anyone, other than adults, play slow pitch...

"Does anyone, other than adults, play slow pitch softball anymore?"

I think that some high schools actually do have SP programs, though not where I ever umpired.
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