"Traveling" Signal at snap

[HLin NC]

Under this philosophy, there goes lifting the leg or the foot by the QB.

[Robert Goodman]

This is one of those rules that can't be written precisely enough to cover all cases and therefore must be administered according to the reason the rule was put in place. There's a difference between a wide receiver rolling his hands and a guard bobbing his butt. The latter, although it might not be a deliberate tactic, would tend to either deceive defensive linemen into thinking the ball was being put in play (false start) or give an advantage in getting off the line at the snap (illegal motion). The former, though obviously deliberate, does nothing that the rules against false starts and illegal motion were put in place to prevent. And the fact that it's not an obvious part of the game or "natural football move", if anything, argues for its being legal rather than illegal. A player's pulling out a piece of gum and chewing it is not common to the game (particularly with a mouthpiece in), and therefore there's no reason to outlaw it; it certainly doesn't give an unfair advantage to the player or his team.

[tjones1]

According to our Head Football Clinician in Illinois, his opinion is it's a foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tjones1

According to our Head Football Clinician in Illinois, his opinion is it's a foul.

I honestly think this is a HTBT situation more than anything. Because I do not think he would advocate any movement from the receivers or even line just because they move their arms. We allow so many other movements, unless the movement was jerky or animated, I still cannot see how I would even call this.

Peace

[Adam]

What foul? False start? It can't be a shift, can it?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

What foul? False start? It can't be a shift, can it?

I could buy a false start (if it is herky, jerky and animated), but not a shift under and circumstances. And a FS would be a stretch for me.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I could buy a false start (if it is herky, jerky and animated), but not a shift under and circumstances. And a FS would be a stretch for me.

Peace

The NFHS has defined it as a shift when the QB takes his hands and puts them under center. So I could see this defined as a shift, sure.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I honestly think this is a HTBT situation more than anything. Because I do not think he would advocate any movement from the receivers or even line just because they move their arms. We allow so many other movements, unless the movement was jerky or animated, I still cannot see how I would even call this.

Peace

Agree that it's a HTBT situation; however, his words are it's an illegal shift, at least.

[REFANDUMP]

What I think we can agree on, is that I hope we never see this !!!: