Proper spot and down?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

And apparently you want to keep it that way!

But the way some of you want to play it when the near inevitable occurs (a pileup) -- the ball sort of alive, sort of dead -- has no rules basis either, and doesn't draw a clear line.

Actually it is not what I want; it is what it is and always has been. And if there is clear possession we rule accordingly before any pile up takes place. Clear possession is not going to stop a pile up in many situations; it just depends on where the ball was fumbled. Actually if you had officiated you probably would realize that the pile up is often a formality. Then again, just because you do not like something is not going to change the reality. I guess you will just have to be upset when the whistle is blown or when possession in your mind is ruled.

Peace