Proper spot and down?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Robert things if we rule on possession that dramatically players will stop going after the ball.

No, I don't think that's going to happen. What will happen is that the ensuing pileup will be irrelevant, and you won't have to take a guess as to who actually gained possession and when the ball became dead.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

No, I don't think that's going to happen. What will happen is that the ensuing pileup will be irrelevant, and you won't have to take a guess as to who actually gained possession and when the ball became dead.

Well I just watched the end of the Michigan State-OSU game on an onside kick and the ball was not clearly judged until the pile took place. And the first player that landed on the ball as you said, the ball popped out immediately and all you could see before the pile were arms and bodies. Not sure who any of the officials could have giving the ball to and that was in slow motion. So again what you just said makes no sense what so ever and cannot be done in live time often with everyone diving for the ball and the ball did not have possession with one person falling on it clearly. I think you should just stick to coaching or become an official and go right ahead and make those rulings and see how fast you are not working at certain levels.

Peace

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well I just watched the end of the Michigan State-OSU game on an onside kick and the ball was not clearly judged until the pile took place. And the first player that landed on the ball as you said, the ball popped out immediately and all you could see before the pile were arms and bodies.

If all you could see were arms and bodies, how do you know the ball popped out immediately?

[APG]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

If all you could see were arms and bodies, how do you know the ball popped out immediately?

Because it was clearly shown on my television screen?

[Robert Goodman]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Because it was clearly shown on my television screen?

So we have a difference between what you could see on TV and what someone else could see. All sorts of things are brought up in this forum based on what someone could later learn on video, with slow motion, etc. I want an answer from the other guy, who couldn't see anything but arms & bodies, who I gather was at the field.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Robert Goodman

If all you could see were arms and bodies, how do you know the ball popped out immediately?

You do realize that I am talking about a TV game right? You do realize this was just one example right? You do realize if this happens on replay in slow motion often that this likely happens in other games right? BTW, I have seen the ball pop out when a player tries to fall on it initially all the time in my games. That ball does funny things sometimes, which is why your position is silly.

Peace