Fake FG Question

[Mike L]

Originally Posted by ajmc

Now, I've answered your questions, might you answer one for me. Just how long are you prepared to continue beating a horse long past death, that has absolutely nothing to do with the original subject at hand? Could there possibly be a relevant point you are so feebly trying to make?

Sure, no problem at all.

I'm willing to continue beating a horse as long as I'm think there's even the faintest possibility the horse may eventually see the errors of his ways. Perhaps it's because I'm a romantic optimist or have some hope for the betterment of my fellow officials no matter how obstinately they hold to their error filled opinion. In your case, that hope is quickly fading. But I can always pursue the dream that the nonsensical ravings of your lunatic mind will not infect those newer officials that stumble upon your rants if they also have the chance to see my counterpoints.

My relevant point remains, your statement that "but angle has nothing to do with anything" is ridiculously wrong. It does not matter how you attempt to hide it by either your tortured writing or logic.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by Mike L

Sure, no problem at all.

I'm willing to continue beating a horse as long as I'm think there's even the faintest possibility the horse may eventually see the errors of his ways.

My relevant point remains, your statement that "but angle has nothing to do with anything" is ridiculously wrong. It does not matter how you attempt to hide it by either your tortured writing or logic.

I'm always willing to be educated, Mike, perhaps you could explain how moving forward a maximum of 18', (the distance from the sidline to the numbers) when the ball might be moved a maximum of 53' 4" farther away (the distance between the near and far hash marks) presents an "angle" problem. If I follow your superior logic, are you recommending that when a ball is snapped from the near hash mark, the best position, so as to avoid angle problems, would be 18' beyond the sideline ?

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by ajmc

I'm always willing to be educated, Mike, perhaps you could explain how moving forward a maximum of 18', (the distance from the sidline to the numbers) when the ball might be moved a maximum of 53' 4" farther away (the distance between the near and far hash marks) presents an "angle" problem. If I follow your superior logic, are you recommending that when a ball is snapped from the near hash mark, the best position, so as to avoid angle problems, would be 18' beyond the sideline ?

First, the location of the ball on the opposite sideline is irrelevant to you because you have no responsibility for the ball when that happens. You are responsible for backside action and the wider you are the wider your view of this action. That is a very good thing. Second, your angle may not be any different on this particular play but I don't think that's the point of Mike's comments. For an official to ever use the words "angle has nothing to do with anything" shows you are missing a very important aspect of officiating mechanics. We have officials in different positions largely because of angles. Keys are based largely on angles. Angles are a very important aspect of officiating.

[ajmc]

Originally Posted by bisonlj

For an official to ever use the words "angle has nothing to do with anything" shows you are missing a very important aspect of officiating mechanics. We have officials in different positions largely because of angles. Keys are based largely on angles. Angles are a very important aspect of officiating.

For ANYBODY to take something completely out of context and try and apply it to an entirely different topic is....disingenuous. In the conversation it was included, "angle" is clearly not an issue. In many other aspects of officiating, of course, angle can be very important.

For an official to try and twist someone's words around to suggest something they were not intended to, or reasonably relate to, suggests you might be missing a very important aspect of officiating, which is addressing a question honestly.

If you have a pimple bothering you, do us both a favor and simply pop the pimple rather than just keep on picking at it.

[bkdow]

Seriously....this is a referee board, not a grammar or anger-management board. Chill out fellas!

[BuckeyeRef]

Originally Posted by bkdow

Seriously....this is a referee board, not a grammar or anger-management board. Chill out fellas!

What about the fake field goal?

[jaybird]

Originally Posted by ajmc

I'm always willing to be educated, Mike, perhaps you could explain how moving forward a maximum of 18', (the distance from the sidline to the numbers)..

18' huh? A lot of things must be different in your world.
The numbers around here are 9 yards from the sideline.