Questions on 4 Situations

[bisonlj]

Originally Posted by Welpe

Ah in that case you would be correct...as I learned just last week.

Great!! We can now justify our time on these forums because we are learning AND teaching and all becoming better officials!!

[ajmc]

The only reminder I might suggest, is that in situation 1, where a runner develops into being a passer, there is an additional, albeit limited, measure of leeway given to the defense according to how that transition occurs. NF: 9.4.5 (Roughing the passer) includes the language, "after it is clear the ball has been thrown" which establishes the point at which the defensive restrictions begin.

As for starting the clock on the ready after a defensive encroachment; although you have the authority to decide to hold the clock until the snap, if you decided the foul was deliberately intended to illegally consure time, your judgment to start the clock on the ready seems entirely appropriate as you mention the clock was running after the previous play.

[OverAndBack]

Originally Posted by ajmc

The only reminder I might suggest, is that in situation 1, where a runner develops into being a passer, there is an additional, albeit limited, measure of leeway given to the defense according to how that transition occurs. NF: 9.4.5 (Roughing the passer) includes the language, "after it is clear the ball has been thrown" which establishes the point at which the defensive restrictions begin.

Correct. Had a situation like that recently where the QB rolled out and it appeared he could run and then he pulled up and threw and got hammered. WH said it was close, but the transition you speak of was the determining factor in him NOT calling RTP.

Of course, if they go for the head or something, you could still have unnecessary roughness, correct?

[Scooby]

Oh, by the way, I had Bill Welke, Major League Umpire on the down box for the game.

[Welpe]

Was this before or after the tag by Varitek at 3rd base? I would've loved to pick his brain about that call.