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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 04:49pm
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We knew what he meant based on the title and the 2nd scenario.
Does "we" include everybody?

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The OP's situation described the player shooting at his "own basket," which would be a try.
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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:07pm
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Does "we" include everybody?
Whether one, or two, people misread a post doesn't detract from its clarity. Obviously, the OP used incorrect terminology, but looking at the OP now, it's also clear what was meant. Also, given that we know many think of "own goal" as scoring for the other team (even FIBA labels the baskets that way in basketball), and the fact that most of us here know this, it's important to read the substance of a post instead of just the headlines.

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Old Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:38pm
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Whether one, or two, people misread a post doesn't detract from its clarity. Obviously, the OP used incorrect terminology, but looking at the OP now, it's also clear what was meant. Also, given that we know many think of "own goal" as scoring for the other team (even FIBA labels the baskets that way in basketball), and the fact that most of us here know this, it's important to read the substance of a post instead of just the headlines.

Let it go.
Also, did anyone notice in the three pages worth of responses that none of them has come from the person who posted the plays? My guess is (s)he got frustrated with three pages worth of nitpicking over the terminology and gave up.

I get it. We need to use correct terminology. However it would've been easy enough to just answer the question as it was meant given the title of the thread is Shooting at the wrong basket case plays then say, "by the way..."
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Old Wed Oct 01, 2014, 06:06am
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... it's also clear what was meant.
Agree, but still believe that "clear" is a very strong word, especially when it could have been much clearer if the title matched the actual post. Note that I chose not to answer the post. I didn't want to post answers based on what was "meant" rather than what was posted, and then have astute Forum members tell me that I was wrong (as Kansas Ref alluded to above) because a player can be in the act of shooting at his own basket (see bballref3966's post above). To me, it just wasn't worth getting involved with the confusion. And by confusion, I am not talking about the original post (although I believe that the wording of the title combined with the actual post could be construed to be confusing), rather, I'm talking about the followup answers.

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... it's important to read the substance of a post instead of just the headlines.
Actually, in this case, the headline (title) had more substance, and clarity, than the actual post.
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