Video Request - Syracuse vs Duke (Video)

[kylejt]

Hats off to the basketball ref for tossing the coach. All baseball umpires are proud of you, for doing what we do all season long.

Let that be a lesson for the rest of you hoopsters. Don't allow those guys to yell at you from point blank range.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Hats off to the basketball ref for tossing the coach. All baseball umpires are proud of you, for doing what we do all season long.

Let that be a lesson for the rest of you hoopsters. Don't allow those guys to yell at you from point blank range.

As a guy who works both baseball and basketball, I think you're missing the big picture. He wasn't run for yelling. He was run for BEING ON THE COURT and continuing to yell/swear/argue while ON THE COURT.

He could've yelled all that stuff all day long from the bench even next to an official (as long as he didn't run up and down the sidelines acting like a madman) and none of the officials would've even blinked (or looked at him) at that point of the game. Coming onto the floor and going apeshit had to be addressed. It was.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by Rich

He could've yelled all that stuff all day long from the bench even next to an official and none of the officials would've even blinked (or looked at him) at that point of the game.

Why is that allowed in basketball, and we eject all day for that in baseball?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Why is that allowed in basketball, and we eject all day for that in baseball?

Different sports, Kyle. Different expectations. Doesn't make basketball wrong and baseball right, either.

Boeheim JUST BEING ON THE FLOOR arguing is a pretty automatic technical foul. Baseball allows managers to come onto the field and argue without ejecting quite a few of them. Is that right?

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by Rich

Different sports, Kyle. Different expectations. Doesn't make basketball wrong and baseball right, either.

Boeheim JUST BEING ON THE FLOOR arguing is a pretty automatic technical foul. Baseball allows managers to come onto the field and argue without ejecting quite a few of them. Is that right?

Yeah, if they request time, don't run at me, and keep it civil.

I just don't like the idea of someone yelling at me, be it on the diamond, hardcourt, or Costco, and not doing something about it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Yeah, if they request time, don't run at me, and keep it civil.

I just don't like the idea of someone yelling at me, be it on the diamond, hardcourt, or Costco, and not doing something about it.

I can't remember the last time a college baseball coach requested time before coming out and arguing a call I've made.

I could only imagine the reaction of my coordinator if I told him I ejected a coach because he didn't call time before he came out to argue a call. Or that he yelled. Goes with the territory.

[stick]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Yeah, if they request time, don't run at me, and keep it civil.

I just don't like the idea of someone yelling at me, be it on the diamond, hardcourt, or Costco, and not doing something about it.

Is this a rule in a league, local area, association or state you ump at? Or is this how you apply it individually? I understand about keeping it civil but I'm not aware of any protocall where a manager must request time before entering the field to contest a call.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Yeah, if they request time, don't run at me, and keep it civil. ..

Well, guess what, that's not something we do not allow coaches to do in basketball, so why do you allow it in baseball?

[asdf]

The dynamics are different. In basketball and football, there is an official that's going to be right in the coach's lap affording them the opportunity to briefly discuss the situation.

In baseball, the distance is too great to carry on this type of conversation so they come out. We don't allow them to yell from the dugout and we don't allow them to yell and scream while they are on the field.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rich

Different sports, Kyle. Different expectations. Doesn't make basketball wrong and baseball right, either. Boeheim JUST BEING ON THE FLOOR arguing is a pretty automatic technical foul. Baseball allows managers to come onto the field and argue without ejecting quite a few of them.

I know more about quantum physics than I do about baseball rules, but: No technical fouls in baseball, just ejections, no other options.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Hats off to the basketball ref for tossing the coach. All baseball umpires are proud of you, for doing what we do all season long.

Let that be a lesson for the rest of you hoopsters. Don't allow those guys to yell at you from point blank range.

WTF are you talking about? When have you seen a coach yell at me?

I know I sure as hell never let a coach come on to the playing surface to debate a call.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

WTF are you talking about? When have you seen a coach yell at me?

I know I sure as hell never let a coach come on to the playing surface to debate a call.

Exactly. I've been known to remind a coach he doesn't get to yell.

Like Rich said, though, different sports have different standards.