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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:25pm
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Video Request: Syracuse v. Indiana

About 13:50 in the second half. A drive to the basket by a Cuse player and the announcers think it is a travel. Can this get clipped up for our purposes please?

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:35pm
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They're very right.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:50pm
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They're very right.
Why?

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Why?

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Because it was an obvious travel. His pivot foot was almost at the top of the key and he shot a layup.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:53pm
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How about 3:40 of the second half? Indiana in transition before the pull-up three point shot. In my opinion, this one is much more obvious than the previous one in this thread.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:56pm
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Because it was an obvious travel. His pivot foot was almost at the top of the key and he shot a layup.
I beg to differ and I felt that you were going to say for some other reason. But he stepped with his pivot foot and stepped with the other foot and went up. The only reason I might suggest it was a travel is him might have dragged the pivot foot on the ground during the step with the non-pivot foot, but not for any other reason. If the foot was off the floor, that is just a basketball play. Nothing unusual, but that is why I want to see it again. I went back on the DVR and was fine with the play. When they made such a big deal out of it, I thought there had to be something else he did.

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It was traveling because "he took three steps", said raftery, lol.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 10:59pm
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It was traveling because "he took three steps", said raftery, lol.
Raftery was right, if you want to describe it that way. Caught the ball, right, left, right.


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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:00pm
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Raftery was right, if you want to describe it that way. Caught the ball, right, left, right.


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He dribbled, he did not catch the ball.

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:01pm
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He dribbled, he did not catch the ball.

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That's what happens at the end of the dribble, you catch the ball.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:02pm
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He dribbled, he did not catch the ball.

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I agree that it would be extremely difficult in real time to determine that he possessed the ball with his right foot on the ground at the beginning of the drive.
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:04pm
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I agree that it would be extremely difficult in real time to determine that he possessed the ball with his right foot on the ground at the beginning of the drive.
I would love to see it again, because it did not look obvious or a travel to me when I DVR'd it in slow motion. It looked like nothing to me. Then again I was not hearing why they felt it was a travel. And I am still not understanding why JAR feels it was "obvious."

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:06pm
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I would love to see it again, because it did not look obvious or a travel to me when I DVR'd it in slow motion. It looked like nothing to me. Then again I was not hearing why they felt it was a travel. And I am still not understanding why JAR feels it was "obvious."

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Even in slow motion, you thought the left foot was the pivot?
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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:09pm
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Even in slow motion, you thought the left foot was the pivot?
I did not make a claim of which foot was the pivot foot. I simply said that when he stopped the dribble the foot I identified as the pivot foot never came back to the floor after he stepped with the other foot. Again, let us see it again and then we can debate which one was the pivot foot for sure. I am going off of memory and what I determined slowed down. I was looking for something off the charts and I did not see anything like that when I reviewed the play.

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Old Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:14pm
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He had the ball firmly in two hands with the right foot on the floor in the circle above the free throw line. The left foot landed, then the right landed again. He jumped off the right foot for the shot.
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