Did I handle correctly ?

[Sharpshooternes]

Team A makes a basket then calls time out. When you administer on the end line to B after the time out and they can "run the end line" where can you administer at at where can't you? Do you always start them near and end line and have them move after it is at their disposal? Can they request the ball midway between the lane line and the sideline? What if they want the ball right under neath the basket (I have always made them move out)?

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Team A makes a basket then calls time out. When you administer on the end line to B after the time out and they can "run the end line" where can you administer at at where can't you? Do you always start them near and end line and have them move after it is at their disposal? Can they request the ball midway between the lane line and the sideline? What if they want the ball right under neath the basket (I have always made them move out)?

Personally, I would stand where I would normally administer the throw in, in a situation where he couldn't run. As I said earlier I would switch sides if it was requested. But if the team wants the ball directly under the basket or antyhing along those lines let him stand there and bounce it to him. That's just how I would handle, if there is something in the book that designates otherwise please correct me!

Just to clarify this is only in a made basket, allowed to run scenario!

[CountTheBasket]

The more I think about it, there may be no reason to even switch sides if requested, let the inbounder stand where he wants the ball and bounce it to him from where you were prepared to administer. My only worry here is out of context it could appear like the old rec ball, lazy, bounce across so you and your partner don't have to switch when in fact it is a different scenario.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by CountTheBasket

The more I think about it, there may be no reason to even switch sides if requested, let the inbounder stand where he wants the ball and bounce it to him from where you were prepared to administer. My only worry here is out of context it could appear like the old rec ball, lazy, bounce across so you and your partner don't have to switch when in fact it is a different scenario.

The only thing the book says is "administer at the nearest spot." Since they can run, does it really matter?

And, if you switch sides because the offense wants you to switch, what do you do if the defense then complains that they had a defense set to force the ball into a specific corner?

Most places don't allow you to bounce across; and I'd never give the ball to the player in the lane extended.

[CountTheBasket]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The only thing the book says is "administer at the nearest spot." Since they can run, does it really matter?

And, if you switch sides because the offense wants you to switch, what do you do if the defense then complains that they had a defense set to force the ball into a specific corner?

Most places don't allow you to bounce across; and I'd never give the ball to the player in the lane extended.

Both times I've had it happened it was still during the timeout and I went and told the other team. I did think to myself what if they broke the huddles and asked. As Bob said they can run across anyway what's the big deal, just a "common sense and fair play" type scenario I suppose.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The only thing the book says is "administer at the nearest spot." Since they can run, does it really matter?

Nope, any location desired by the team is okay.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And, if you switch sides because the offense wants you to switch, what do you do if the defense then complains that they had a defense set to force the ball into a specific corner?

Not worry about such a complaint because BY RULE the offense can go anywhere along the endline they wish. The defense needs to be prepared to defend the throw-in from any and all such locations.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Most places don't allow you to bounce across;

In those areas the administering official needs to move. Hopefully that isn't a physical challenge to the officiating crew.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

and I'd never give the ball to the player in the lane extended.

In this instance you should. The player has every right to throw the ball from there under these circumstances. Nothing in the book states that he can't start there too!

[Rich]

This is all academic, of course, since in 27 years of officiating I've never had someone ask for me to move to a different "spot."

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Rich

This is all academic, of course, since in 27 years of officiating I've never had someone ask for me to move to a different "spot."

Only on extra point attempts . . . oops, I've got the Super Bowl on my mind . . .

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rich

This is all academic, of course, since in 27 years of officiating I've never had someone ask for me to move to a different "spot."

Despite this, it's the type of play that leads to long, protracted discussions whenever it comes up in an association meeting.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes

Team A makes a basket then calls time out. When you administer on the end line to B after the time out and they can "run the end line" where can you administer at at where can't you? Do you always start them near and end line and have them move after it is at their disposal? Can they request the ball midway between the lane line and the sideline? What if they want the ball right under neath the basket (I have always made them move out)?

By rule, the team has the entire endline. So the team member may begin anywhere along the endline. It would be improper for an official to insist that a player begin the throw-in at any particular location. There is no rules justification for that.
This isn't a designated spot throw-in.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

By rule, the team has the entire endline. So the team member may begin anywhere along the endline. It would be improper for an official to insist that a player begin the throw-in at any particular location. There is no rules justification for that.
This isn't a designated spot throw-in.

I agree from a rules standpoint, but from a mechanics standpoint I'm not administering the ball while he's in the lane extended. He can go exactly where he wants as soon as I deliver the ball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

I agree from a rules standpoint, but from a mechanics standpoint I'm not administering the ball while he's in the lane extended. He can go exactly where he wants as soon as I deliver the ball.

Since BY RULE the team has the right to execute the throw-in from any point along the endline following a goal (or awarded score) by the opponent, you would be dead wrong to refuse to administer the ball at his desired location. To force him to come to where you want and then have to move to his desired location during the five-second count unfairly takes time away from his team and has no rules support.

You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Since BY RULE the team has the right to executive the throw-in from any point along the endline following a goal (or awarded score) by the opponent, you would be dead wrong to refuse to administer the ball at his desired location. To force him to come to where you want and then have to move to his desired location during the five-second count unfairly takes time away from his team and has no rules support.

You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.

I disagree. All the rule grants the player is the right to make the throwin from anywhere along the line. There is nothing in the rule that says anything about where they must or get to start such a throwin. It just gives them the right to move elsewhere.

[Nevadaref]

Camron,
You know the guiding principle that whatever is not prohibited by the rules is allowed. So barring a rule which prohibits the player from getting the ball in a certain location, we need to permit it.
What's the big deal? Just throw him the ball.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Since BY RULE the team has the right to execute the throw-in from any point along the endline following a goal (or awarded score) by the opponent, you would be dead wrong to refuse to administer the ball at his desired location. To force him to come to where you want and then have to move to his desired location during the five-second count unfairly takes time away from his team and has no rules support.

You may disagree with how I recommend to handle certain situations during a high school basketball game, such as penalizing a team for actions of the spectators, but everything that I advise doing isn't just because I like or don't like something, it can be supported by the rules.

Being right isn't always the right thing to do.

No reason to bring up other situations here. I'm sticking to the topic at hand.

This really is academic. If the player is in the lane extended, I'm moving him. If he insists on staying there after I try to move him, I probably would toss him the ball. Wouldn't happen and won't happpen.