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I can't imagine NOT whacking the white player, for a shove to the chest of the green player.
In a game I am officiating...if a player contacts another player in the way this player initially did...It's Tea Time...blowing whistle hard...looking confident in my decision. (Hopefully) For you officials that let H.S. players shove each other (even if it's just a simple "get out of my way") IMO you might want to re-think these actions. Sidenote: Most of us would probably whack the player if she/he just taunted the other player...why not then the T for contact? C'mon man. ![]()
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As I noted before, if this had been the first sign of anything, I could see a quick (and concise) chat. If we'd already had that chat, it's an easy T. I'd have no problem backing a partner who skipped the chat, though. I'm guessing, however, that this wasn't the first sign of trouble.
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The white team is the highest ranked 1A (lowest division) girls team in the state, and was undefeated. The green team is a fairly high ranked 4A (highest division) school. Coupled with the jersey retirement ceremony for Skylar Diggins, both teams had a lot to prove.
An IHSAA commissioner said "The game officials assessed the proper penalty of ejection" but I doubt if they will comment on the management of the game up to that point. |
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Bonus coverage.
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Rule 10, Section 4 ART. 5 The head coach is responsible for his/her own conduct and behavior, as well as substitutes, disqualified team members and all other bench personnel. Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not: Leave the confines of the bench during a fight or when a fight may break out. NOTE: The head coach may enter the court in the situation where a fight may break out – or has broken out – to prevent the situation from escalating. PENALTY: (Art. 5) Flagrant foul, disqualification of individual offender, but only one technical-foul penalty is administered regardless of the number of offenders. This one foul is also charged indirectly to the head coach. If the head coach is an offender, an additional flagrant technical foul is charged directly to the coach and penalized. When a simultaneous technical foul(s) by opponents occurs, the free throws are not awarded when the penalties offset. |
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Doh! I forgot to subtract the two shots from green's total due to their HC's FTF (I noted it, just forgot to deduct at the end). Two shots for white. Six shots for green. Green ball. I think where I may have this wrong is with considering the ACs' participation to be direct. I don't consider them to have merely entered the court. I know they didn't actually throw any punches or touch any opponents, so I may have this wrong. In that case: White gets two shots. Green gets two shots and the ball (assuming none of the other knuckleheads milling around the court were green coaches.) All visible coaches are ejected. Is this where you were headed?
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The second portion is closest to how I would administer this. Basic principle is cancel as many FTs as possible, except one can't offset those due to a personal foul with those due to technical.
Lastly, the woman in green who immediately runs out onto the court is costing her side a team technical foul and getting ejected from the gym. I still strongly believe that spectators have no business coming onto the court during a game. If we can pinpoint any others who aren't game admin or trainers, the same applies to them. |
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I'm still likely to have considered the coaches to have participated in the fight by verbally antagonizing the opponents, and there will be two free throws for each one; obviously canceling out as many as possible to the point where we only have one team shooting technical foul shots.
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As for others, the message must be clearly sent and understood at the HS level that the court is a no fly zone for anyone with a team, but the players and head coaches (plus possibly a trainer in a severe injury situation). This is a safety issue. The officials and players can't have random people entering the court. It needs to be made clear that immediate expulsion from the event is the consequence and I also support penalizing the associated team, if the affiliation is clear. |
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I am not penalizing any fan coming onto the court just because they enter the court. Leave that up to the administrators to take care of that kind of thing. And in some cases those coming onto the court are administrators or school personnel. Heck in some cases they might be actual security like a police officer.
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