A bit of a mess at an Indiana HS game

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

But in 4.18.2 the initial action, in and of itself, would warrant a technical foul. So it this causes a fight, both players are gone. In the OP the original action, in and of itself, was nothing, in my opinion. That makes a big difference.

It wasn't "nothing" IMO. If it's the first sign of trouble, she's getting a quick chat about keeping her head in the game.

If it's post-chat, then it's a T.

If it starts a fight, then it's a flagrant T either way, IMO.

[Ref16]

Originally Posted by Adam

It wasn't "nothing" IMO. If it's the first sign of trouble, she's getting a quick chat about keeping her head in the game.

If it's post-chat, then it's a T.

If it starts a fight, then it's a flagrant T either way, IMO.

This seems to be closest to my view on this play. I would need to have background on the events leading up to this point in the game to say whether or not the "get off me nudge" warrants a technical foul or an ejection in said play. The girl in green is most definitely gone though-that is blatant and inexcusable.

We don't know for sure what the game was like leading up to this point, but I would venture to say that tensions and emotions were most likely high even before this happened...and I would hope that it had been addressed with the players by the officials AND the coaches. Maybe it is only in my small part of the world, but the first time a player does anything that instigates any reaction from an opponant-no matter how small-that player is getting warned and their coach is being told, "Hey, coach-player X has been warned for (insert action here), please address this with them." It is game management IMO...

That being said, there are circumstances and times that this approach may not be the best for the game...just my opinion.