A bit of a mess at an Indiana HS game

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This is the key. If you think that this was an unsporting act, then yes, kick 'em both out. That is debatable, but I can live with it. But we cannot simply say that whatever A did which provoked B and caused the fight must result in the ejection of both players. A is falling. B catches him, although somewhat roughly. A misinterprets the act and responds with a punch. The first act must be judged and a line must be drawn.

I don't recall anyone saying otherwise.

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by Adam

It wasn't "nothing" IMO. If it's the first sign of trouble, she's getting a quick chat about keeping her head in the game.

If it's post-chat, then it's a T.

If it starts a fight, then it's a flagrant T either way, IMO.

Originally Posted by Adam

IMO, if you're going to require intent here as you indicate, the rule is useless. I agree it's not the best wording, but it makes more sense to me than requiring the player to have intentionally started a fight. The action itself was intentional.

I'd much rather get rid of both eggs.

Added note:
"Useless" may be a bit strong. It's possible the rule is intended to only apply to a player attempting to bait his opponent into a fight.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't recall anyone saying otherwise.

It seems they did.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OKREF

It seems they did.

Then you read me wrong. If A1 hadn't done anything T worthy here, I wouldn't advocate tossing her.

What she did was T-worthy. Where did I say otherwise?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

Then you read me wrong. If A1 hadn't done anything T worthy here, I wouldn't advocate tossing her.

What she did was T-worthy. Where did I say otherwise?

This is why taunting and other things are often emphasized by the NF or local state organizations, because we allow these kinds of things to happen and we wonder why we have problems later.

Peace

[VaTerp]

I'm late to the party and the original clip from youtube has been removed. The clip below shows the shove and punch but I'm assuming not as much of the aftermath discussed previously.

UPDATE: Player ejected after punch thrown during SB Washington vs. Oregon-Davis game | Local - Home

The one thing I can agree with is the lack of urgency on the part of the officials after the initial shove. Maybe this came out of nowhere but this is a reminder of the importance of dead ball awareness and trying to put out fires as quickly as possible.

On a side note, I lived in South Bend for 3 years and know the Washington coach, Skylar Diggins step-father, very well from my time there as well as professional connections since I moved back to the DC area. FWIW, he's a great guy, does a ton in the community, and his family is first class all the way. He's also done a good bit of officiating himself.

All of that has little to nothing to do with discussing the officiating aspects of the play but just thought I would add that given the title of the original link.

[JetMetFan]

Here's the original. Silly, silly people. Trying to keep it from us...

Originally Posted by VaTerp

On a side note, I lived in South Bend for 3 years and know the Washington coach, Skylar Diggins step-father, very well from my time there as well as professional connections since I moved back to the DC area. FWIW, he's a great guy, does a ton in the community, and his family is first class all the way. He's also done a good bit of officiating himself.

Which guy in the video is the Washington head coach?

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Here's the original. Silly, silly people. Trying to keep it from us...

Thanks! I think the officials and game management were fortunate here because things could have really escalated. The officials seem pretty lackadaisical throughout the whole thing.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Which guy in the video is the Washington head coach?

He is the shorter, bald black guy in the green shirt who all of the coaches in grey seem to get a word in with.