Inadvertent whistle

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Is that really true now since they basically said all other rules are they were as before on that the only thing that changes is that you can have a team control foul during a throwin....which is not necessarily the same as having team control. (You can have a PC foul without PC in the case of an airborne shooter).

After B1 tips the ball and while it is rolling loose, A2 pushes B2. Do we have a Team Control foul?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Is that really true now since they basically said all other rules are they were as before on that the only thing that changes is that you can have a team control foul during a throwin....which is not necessarily the same as having team control. (You can have a PC foul without PC in the case of an airborne shooter).

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

After B1 tips the ball and whiling it is rolling loose, A2 pushes B2. Do we have a Team Control foul?

Of course, but that is due to the NFHS modifying the definition of a team control foul this season as opposed to the definition of team control last season.

Camron is referring to this passage from the changes of this season:

A team-control foul is a common foul committed by a team that has team control (including a member of the throw-in team from the start of the throw-in until player control is obtained inbounds). Rationale: The committee adopted a team-control rule change for last season which introduced some complications for a number of other rules. These complications were handled through interpretations last year. The addition of this parenthetical statement allows all rules affected by the team-control definition change last season to revert to their previous verbiage and brings the rule in line with the interpretations that were released last year.

Unfortunately, the NFHS did NOT change all of the affected rules back to their previous verbiage. Thus we have a situation in which we obtain different rulings by following the above guidance or what the text in the current rules book actually says.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Of course, but that is due to the NFHS modifying the definition of a team control foul this season as opposed to the definition of team control last season.
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Which is why I would give the ball back to the throw-in team if we have an IW instead of a foul in this situation.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Unfortunately, the NFHS did NOT change all of the affected rules back to their previous verbiage. Thus we have a situation in which we obtain different rulings by following the above guidance or what the text in the current rules book actually says.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Which is why I would give the ball back to the throw-in team if we have an IW instead of a foul in this situation.

Would you do that under the rules which were in place for the 2010-11 season? The definitions of player and team control were different.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Would you do that under the rules which were in place for the 2010-11 season? The definitions of player and team control were different.

I don't think retroactively