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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 01:58pm
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Inadvertent whistle

A1 passes ball inbounds from base line. B1 tips ball and it careens into the underside of the backboard then into A2's possession.

T whistles and call an OOB violation. L informs T that the ball only hit the underside of the backboard not the back side.

At this point the T explains that he has an inadvertent whistle and awards the ball back to A1 for a base line throw in.

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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 02:09pm
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On an IW the ball goes back to the team in control, so ......
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 02:11pm
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It is actually called an accidental whistle. Inadvertent whistle is a football term.

With that being said, they go to the AP if he blew the whistle for a violation and the ball was not in possession. Team A would get the ball if they had the arrow. But it does not sound like that might not have been the case here.

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What other options are there?
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 02:41pm
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With that being said, they go to the AP if he blew the whistle for a violation and the ball was not in possession.
No team control during a throw-in for your games?
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Why is this a question?
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No team control during a throw-in for your games?
Does team control continue after B1 tips the ball?
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What other options are there?
The only option I can see being considered is if the whistle went while possession in bounds hadn't yet been established, which may cause someone to go with the arrow.
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The only option I can see being considered is if the whistle went while possession in bounds hadn't yet been established, which may cause someone to go with the arrow.
Right. Let's extend the play. After B1's tip, the ball bounces off the backboard and towards the division line when the officials blows the whistle.

Throw in is over. If TC is no longer in effect, you would go to the arrow.
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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 03:29pm
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Right. Let's extend the play. After B1's tip, the ball bounces off the backboard and towards the division line when the officials blows the whistle.

Throw in is over. If TC is no longer in effect, you would go to the arrow.
How is TC no longer in effect?

4-12-3 Team control continues until a) a try b) an opponent secures control or c) the ball becomes dead.

Since there was no try, A has team control as it's control has not ended since it was established by the throw-in.
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It is actually called an accidental whistle. Inadvertent whistle is a football term.

With that being said, they go to the AP if he blew the whistle for a violation and the ball was not in possession. Team A would get the ball if they had the arrow. But it does not sound like that might not have been the case here.

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Old Wed Dec 05, 2012, 03:37pm
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Check 4-36-1.
Are you sure that is the rule you want to go with?

It is better to look at 4-36-2a and even that is not what took place.

4-12-3c says team control continues until the ball becomes dead. Well the whistle makes the play dead and no one is in control of the ball.

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Are you sure that is the rule you want to go with?

It is better to look at 4-36-2a and even that is not what took place.

4-12-3c says team control continues until the ball becomes dead. Well the whistle makes the play dead and no one is in control of the ball.

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Sorry, I was referring to "inadvertent whistle" being used as a term with that reference.
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It is actually called an accidental whistle. Inadvertent whistle is a football term...
4-36-1
Point of interruption: Method of resuming play due to officials INADVERTENT WHISTLE...

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