Just a Word of Caution...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by zm1283

Edit: And by the way, I do agree with the part in the OP about schools complaining. If they refuse to provide somewhere to change, they can't complain about us dressing outside. With that said, even the middle schools I speak of above that start their games at 3:00 would find somewhere for us to dress if we wanted.

I've yet to see a school that doesn't at least have a public restroom. It might not be ideal, but at least it is not outside where you can get a sunburn.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I've yet to see a school that doesn't at least have a public restroom. It might not be ideal, but at least it is not outside where you can get a sunburn.

I've yet to see a public school that doesn't have separate bathrooms for its faculty and staff.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I've yet to see a public school that doesn't have separate bathrooms for its faculty and staff.

True, but those may or may not be in the area of the school that has been opened for the game. They may be in an entirely different area that is inaccessible....lots of youth game organizers rent just the gym and the nearby hallways/access, not the entire school building and the rest may or may not be unlocked.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

True, but those may or may not be in the area of the school that has been opened for the game. They may be in an entirely different area that is inaccessible....lots of youth game organizers rent just the gym and the nearby hallways/access, not the entire school building and the rest may or may not be unlocked.

Unless I missed something this was not a "youth game" from the standpoint of some organization running the game. This was a middle school game which to me always means that game is being played under the jurisdiction of the school or school district and they are playing at the school or a building they control. My comments about professionalism have nothing to do with a travel league or some league that is not a school-sanctioned event. But I am sure every school has some facilities that faculty can go where the students cannot, especially in this day and age. And if that is not the case, then that should be known to those going to work games.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Unless I missed something this was not a "youth game" from the standpoint of some organization running the game. This was a middle school game which to me always means that game is being played under the jurisdiction of the school or school district and they are playing at the school or a building they control. My comments about professionalism have nothing to do with a travel league or some league that is not a school-sanctioned event. But I am sure every school has some facilities that faculty can go where the students cannot, especially in this day and age. And if that is not the case, then that should be known to those going to work games.

Peace

MS games = youth games.

In fact, in Oregon, I don't think there are any MS that sponsor teams at all. The MS's got out of that business a LONG time ago. There are often independent operations that conduct business in connection with a school but the connection is very loose.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

MS games = youth games.

In fact, in Oregon, I don't think there are any MS that sponsor teams at all. The MS's got out of that business a LONG time ago. There are often independent operations that conduct business in connection with a school but the connection is very loose.

At least in Texas, I consider everything below 7th grade (and in Texas middle school is 6th-8th grades) as youth that's the earliest that kids are allowed to try out for school sports. Before then, it's all independent organizations.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

At least in Texas, I consider everything below 7th grade (and in Texas middle school is 6th-8th grades) as youth that's the earliest that kids are allowed to try out for school sports. Before then, it's all independent organizations.

I consider ANY less than Freshman as youth...even if it were affiliated with a school (and MS here is 7th-8th...as was also the case anywhere else I've lived....6th and below is elementary/grade school).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

MS games = youth games.

In fact, in Oregon, I don't think there are any MS that sponsor teams at all. The MS's got out of that business a LONG time ago. There are often independent operations that conduct business in connection with a school but the connection is very loose.

Well in Illinois we have two state sanctioned bodies depending on where you are located in the state one is the IESA and in the southern part they have one that also runs a state tournament in multiple sports and crowns champions in both 7th and 8th grades. The Illinois Elementary School Association covers most of the state and a representative attends the official's conference that is held every year by the IHSA to inform officials of the differences for their sports to what is offered at the IHSA level. I do not consider that "youth" as it is more organized and you cannot work IESA games without being an IHSA licensed official. It is semantics, but these games are not like AAU or some local league where many people show up with multiple teams. IESA games in my experience are at local schools and run the same way as any HS or college game. You show up to the school, you get a locker room and you have security or someone takes you back to your locker room at halftime and after the game. And in many cases you have a shower if you choose to use one. Now in the current area I live it is a little different as there are many more MS games but not all under the same jurisdiction.

Peace