Passing ball to self

[MiamiWadeCounty]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

jar gave you the appropriate case play but the case play is wrong. By rule, it's an illegal dribble. Traveling is moving the pivot foot outside prescribed limits while HOLDING the ball. A1 isn't holding the ball when he lifts his pivot.

The correct ruling was listed for years. Then, a few seasons ago, some Einstein changed the ruling.

Can you tell me why it should be an illegal dribble and not traveling? You said by rule, but which rule?

[APG]

Originally Posted by MiamiWadeCounty

Can you tell me why it should be an illegal dribble and not traveling? You said by rule, but which rule?

If you consider the toss of the ball as the start of the dribble, then the player has violated by not permitting the ball to strike the floor before the ball is touched again with the hand(s) as is required by 4-15-2.

In reality, no coach is going to get on your case if you call an illegal dribble/travel.

[MiamiWadeCounty]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

If you consider the toss of the ball as the start of the dribble, then the player has violated by not permitting the ball to strike the floor before the ball is touched again with the hand(s) as is required by 4-15-2.

The player has violated even if he never moved his pivot foot?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by MiamiWadeCounty

The player has violated even if he never moved his pivot foot?

No. He has violated if he tosses the ball, runs and touches it before it hits the floor. The toss is considered the start of a dribble.

[APG]

Originally Posted by MiamiWadeCounty

The player has violated even if he never moved his pivot foot?

No, we've already established that that scenario is legal...a stationary player to toss and catch the ball without moving the pivot foot.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by MiamiWadeCounty

Can you tell me why it should be an illegal dribble and not traveling? You said by rule, but which rule?

4-44-1. With one exception, you have to be holding the ball to travel.