Was told I hustle too much

[SWMOzebra]

Originally Posted by Freddy

A great clinician once taught that once one is settled in his primary, everything necessary to see can be seen from within the distance of the occasional "karaoke (sp?) step"--one crossover and another lateral step beyond that.

I have heard this at camps as well and believe it to be true when working 3-whistle games. Unfortunately, where I'm at we still work almost exclusively 2-whistle for HS and lower ... and this thinking simply doesn't apply, especially when you're the T.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

I have heard this at camps as well and believe it to be true when working 3-whistle games. Unfortunately, where I'm at we still work almost exclusively 2-whistle for HS and lower ... and this thinking simply doesn't apply, especially when you're the T.

That is true, but you don't have to be an electron while working the arc.

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

That is true, but you don't have to be an electron while working the arc.

Ahhh ... the days when I could actually move like an electron.......

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Ahhh ... the days when I could actually move like an electron.......

Then there are the 'neutrons' who stay at a point fixed at the intersection of the sideline and division line.....

[chartrusepengui]

I worked with one of them the other night. He looked real funny standing there in the corner all night.

A couple of refs watching from stands called him the zebra mussel as he always "stuck" to that spot. When he was lead he stood directly under the basket and never moved. It was a tough game to do with him. Fortunately, it was a one time deal and I was stepping in for a friend who had a family emergency.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

I worked with one of them the other night. He looked real funny standing there in the corner all night.

A couple of refs watching from stands called him the zebra mussel as he always "stuck" to that spot. When he was lead he stood directly under the basket and never moved. It was a tough game to do with him. Fortunately, it was a one time deal and I was stepping in for a friend who had a family emergency.

Did he leave a trail of mucous?

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Did he leave a trail of mucous?

well, nobody was slipping or cleaning the floor

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

Ahhh ... the days when I could actually move like an electron.......

You could move in a quantum probability amplitude? Wow!

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

I have heard this at camps as well and believe it to be true when working 3-whistle games. Unfortunately, where I'm at we still work almost exclusively 2-whistle for HS and lower ... and this thinking simply doesn't apply, especially when you're the T.

I still do two-man occasionally, in fact I have a DH in a couple of hours. Unless there's something where I need to sprint to get to another position, I'll still do the "karaoke two-step", whether at L or T, to get where I need to see the slot or the play better. If necessary, one move will be followed by another, but I still do it all the time whenever I get to do two-man as well as three-man.

The guys I see moving all over the place, sprinting back and forth like an ADD inflicted ant, usually don't get themselves into any sort of better position to see what they need to see better anyway.

Since it's fresh on my mind, I'll try to report back on how it works in two-man after the games tonight.

[SWMOzebra]

Originally Posted by Freddy

I still do two-man occasionally, in fact I have a DH in a couple of hours. Unless there's something where I need to sprint to get to another position, I'll still do the "karaoke two-step", whether at L or T, to get where I need to see the slot or the play better. If necessary, one move will be followed by another, but I still do it all the time whenever I get to do two-man as well as three-man.

The guys I see moving all over the place, sprinting back and forth like an ADD inflicted ant, usually don't get themselves into any sort of better position to see what they need to see better anyway.

Since it's fresh on my mind, I'll try to report back on how it works in two-man after the games tonight.

I'm interested in hearing your report. My original comment wasn't designed to imply that running all over the place as T is SOP in 2-whistle. I generally agree with you that 2-4 steps for angles is sufficient.

However, when the ball goes opposite of your position and is well-above the FT line extended ... I personally move where I need to for angles and sometimes this means taking half dozen steps diagonally into the BC. If the ball squirts out of bounds on the L's sideline and he looks to me for help, I'm sureashell not coming up with a jump ball signal because of poor positioning.

[Rich]

As the T in 2-person, I'm moving wherever and whenever I need to in order to get good angles and not get straightlined. Period.

[tomegun]

I avoid using the word hustle as much as possible. The goal of getting into the best position will require a sprint at times and absolutely no movement other times. Some younger officials will hear hustle and think they must always be moving. The end result may be hustling right out of position.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

As the T in 2-person, I'm moving wherever and whenever I need to in order to get good angles and not get straightlined. Period.

I agree.

[JRutledge]

I will just say this about the advice. It is one person's advice. That is all it is. Take it for what it is worth and if the person said something to you that makes sense, use it. If it does not make sense, then do not use it. This is why you go to many camps and get evaluated many times, you will hear conflicting things from time to time. We all do not officiate the same.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I will just say this about the advice. It is one person's advice. That is all it is. Take it for what it is worth and if the person said something to you that makes sense, use it. If it does not make sense, then do not use it. This is why you go to many camps and get evaluated many times, you will hear conflicting things from time to time. We all do not officiate the same.

Peace

Exactly. And there is no "best practices" that we can shoehorn into every piece of advice given.

Example: At one camp I attended I had two consecutive clinicians tell me (1) rotate quicker and (2) don't rotate so fast. Years ago I would've found frustration -- today I try to remember which clinician said it so I can adjust if I get on his court again later in the camp.