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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 07:41am
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My first thought was that the center official (Crawford) hit Perkins with the T. Perkins was walking away from Rush, who was the trail, but he was walking right at Crawford. My first thought was that Crawford whacked him for the antics, but I could never really see on any replay who actually gave the technical. Announcers said it was Rush, I assume it was him, but don't know for sure. Anyone know for sure it was Rush and not Crawford (the center official on that play)? Just curious...
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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 07:51am
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Anyone know for sure it was Rush and not Crawford (the center official on that play)? Just curious...
This article says:

"With 36.1 seconds remaining in the half, referee Eddie Rush rang up Perkins a second time for what appeared to be some minor post-play grousing."


Another online source said:

"Then with 36.1 seconds left, Perkins and Dwight Howard were jostling in the post, and Perkins was whistled for his third personal. Perkins outstretched his arms and protested the call as he turned away from referee Eddie F. Rush, who apparently decided he went too far.

Rush called the technical, Perkins looked on with an expression of stunned disbelief, then slowly shuffled to the other end of the court and eventually through the tunnel to the Boston locker room."
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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 08:01am
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This article says:

"With 36.1 seconds remaining in the half, referee Eddie Rush rang up Perkins a second time for what appeared to be some minor post-play grousing."


Another online source said:

"Then with 36.1 seconds left, Perkins and Dwight Howard were jostling in the post, and Perkins was whistled for his third personal. Perkins outstretched his arms and protested the call as he turned away from referee Eddie F. Rush, who apparently decided he went too far.

Rush called the technical, Perkins looked on with an expression of stunned disbelief, then slowly shuffled to the other end of the court and eventually through the tunnel to the Boston locker room."
I love how none of this report what the player said as he was walking away. It is very obvious and one can read his lips in the video highlight. He deserved the T. Still I would bet that the NBE OFFICE will rescind it and let him play anyway. They want a show more than they wish to support their officials. Very sad.

Just in case there is any question about my criticisms, let me say they are directed at those in the league office, not the on-court officials. The league directors are the problem.
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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 08:14am
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I love how none of this report what the player said as he was walking away. It is very obvious and one can read his lips in the video highlight. He deserved the T. Still I would bet that the NBE OFFICE will rescind it and let him play anyway. They want a show more than they wish to support their officials. Very sad.

Just in case there is any question about my criticisms, let me say they are directed at those in the league office, not the on-court officials. The league directors are the problem.
Agreed, and it will only add fuel to the fire of opinion that NBA refs are incompetent. The league will be trading long term benefit for short term gain.
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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 08:33am
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When did we get to the point that anything players say is OK?

If we have to live by the mantra of "You cannot quote silence," then why do players and coaches not adhere to the same issues? It sounds to me that no T would have been given if Perkins kept his mouth shut. Seems pretty simple if you ask me.

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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 08:41am
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I didn't like the T at all, Rush seemed to get personal about it. Looked like a "gotcha" call. Yeah, Perkins said it was a BS call, but he said it as he walked away. He never stared down Rush either. Did he flail his arms? Yes, but he did it as he walked away.
Its an emotional game, I bet Rush wishes he could have that one back.

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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 08:58am
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I do understand that in terms of what is often let slide in the NBA and even NCAA levels this tech may be percieved as soft.

As an official, parent and basketball fan I'm glad he called it. Sure he was walking away, but walk away and be frustrated with yourself and talk to your teammates about the next possesion. Don't walk away whining and bi&^%ing. If this was the standard for all tech's you'd see a lot less barking and whining to officials and more basketball players worrying about playing basketball in the league. IMO

I get that their millionaires, its suppose to be entertainment too, and its an emotional and physical game. I'm ok with all that stuff in the context of playing the game. The whistle is blown, you are no longer playing the game you are waiting for the game to resume. PLayers worry about playing the game, officials worry about calling it.

Also I'm not convinced it was a great inital foul call based on what I saw, but having watched NBA games on tv and in person everyone is making hard contact with everyone from 15 feet in on every possesion so what is and isn't a foul is pretty subjective. Get over it.
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I didn't like the T at all, Rush seemed to get personal about it. Looked like a "gotcha" call. Yeah, Perkins said it was a BS call, but he said it as he walked away. He never stared down Rush either. Did he flail his arms? Yes, but he did it as he walked away.
Its an emotional game, I bet Rush wishes he could have that one back.
Let me get this straight. I can say anything to you as I am walking away and that is OK? Can you show me any rulebook that says "Walking away" exonerates a person from unsportsmanlike penalty?

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"The league will support the T in the interest of having a Game 7 in Orlando" - Tim Donaghy
Didn't Dave Stern suspend an official for the entire playoffs for giving a T to Tim Duncan a couple of years ago? I guess that squashes that reasoning.

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Let me get this straight. I can say anything to you as I am walking away and that is OK? Can you show me any rulebook that says "Walking away" exonerates a person from unsportsmanlike penalty?
Absolutely not! But Perkins saying "that was a BS call" on a pretty borderline call is one that I'll eat. IMO, his demostrative body language was more disrespectful than his verbal. I allow coaches & players a bit more pushback on questionable calls. Now if that was a clear cut, no-brainer then yeah, whack & toss.

You're right the rulebook doesn't mention walking away AT ALL.

The rulebook does not say anything about managing the game either

I'm sure you know all about; the game within the game, managing emotions, effective communication, situational refereeing (having a feel for the game) & the like.

Imagine this, Rush calls the foul then goes tableside T. After Perkins antics, he speaks with Rush on the first of two FTs. Rush tells him what he had & adds, if you stomp off like that again & I'll be forced to whack you & that will be a DQ. Dont put me in that predicament.

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Didn't Dave Stern suspend an official for the entire playoffs for giving a T to Tim Duncan a couple of years ago? I guess that squashes that reasoning.

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I didn't like the T at all, Rush seemed to get personal about it. Looked like a "gotcha" call. Yeah, Perkins said it was a BS call, but he said it as he walked away. He never stared down Rush either. Did he flail his arms? Yes, but he did it as he walked away.
Its an emotional game, I bet Rush wishes he could have that one back.
Does this apply in other facets of life:
  • Employee/Boss
  • Student/Teacher
  • Child/Parent

Me: Son, clean up that room or you're not hanging out with your friends tonight.

Son (flailing arms and walking away): That's bullsh!t.

Me: Give me your keys, you're not going anywhere for the next week.

Son (through bloody lip ): But Dad, I was only talking to myself, why are you punishing me?
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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 09:45am
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Does this apply in other facets of life:
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I don't see how walking away is relevant when you're cursing out an official. I was always taught to never do that.
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Old Thu May 27, 2010, 07:55am
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Anyone know for sure it was Rush and not Crawford (the center official on that play)? Just curious...
Considering Rush reported the T to the table and you can see him start to whack him when the camera cuts away, then I am certain it was Rush.
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