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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 09:17am
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I think Mr Tony Greene got some 'splainin to do why he didn't hit his whistle for throw-in violation......
Agree. I was watching it live and saw the replays. Thrower with the ball OOB----> count started---> thrower steps on court.

Should be interesting.......but as usual, I ain't judging anybody until I hear the 'splainin'.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 09:39am
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I believe the inadvertant whistle caused this whole mess. I'm not penalizing a team for one of our screwups. Reset the play and move on.

It appears obvious the inbounder doesn't know his position on the floor. Looks like he gathers the ball after the shot, hears the whistle, then moves in to find out what the call is. Sees no action by an official and "attempts" to inbounds from his current location (likely because he's still in the same colored floor area). No excuse for his actions, but upon the whistle from the L moves to his correct location.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 10:24am
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I believe the inadvertant whistle caused this whole mess. I'm not penalizing a team for one of our screwups. Reset the play and move on.

It appears obvious the inbounder doesn't know his position on the floor. Looks like he gathers the ball after the shot, hears the whistle, then moves in to find out what the call is. Sees no action by an official and "attempts" to inbounds from his current location (likely because he's still in the same colored floor area). No excuse for his actions, but upon the whistle from the L moves to his correct location.
The inbounder is Keon Lawrence who was out on $25k bail for driving the wrong way on the Garden State Parkway, so probably baselines etc. are much too difficult for him to comprehend.

Here is part of story from Newark Star Ledger with numerous inaccuracies. Free-throw woes almost cause collapse, but Seton Hall wins 80-77 over Louisville | Seton Hall Sports - - Seton Hall Sports - NJ.com

[FONT="Century Gothic"][SIZE="4"][SIZE="5"]"Pirates guard Keon Lawrence, who earlier yesterday turned himself in to New Jersey State Police and paid bail of $25,000 in Sayreville Borough Municipal Court in regard to a charge of assault-by-auto and driving with a suspended license from November, appeared to step over the baseline before inbounding the ball, before referee Jim Burr pulled him back(Tony Greene not Jim Burr and nobody pulled him back). [/B][/COLOR]Louisville coach Rick Pitino ran out to almost midcourt [B](he ran to baseline abut 5 feet onto court)[/B] arguing for a turnover. Seton Hall claimed it heard a whistle and saw Pitino calling for a timeout.

Confusion ensued with neither side exactly sure of what had happened.

“Keon said he wanted to get it out of bounds as soon as possible so the [B]clock would run down (The clock is going to run down after a field goal?).” Gonzalez said. “They said there was some kind of inadvertent whistle. I think a whistle blew that wasn’t supposed to blow, which kind of hurt us because now we’ve got to get it inbounds again. So I don’t know what happened.” (Well this is true)
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 10:24am
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Nice job on the post Nevada...it explains (I guess) most of what happened in the sitch.
Am I correct in saying that the missing piece of information to all of us following this bizarre play is...why the whistle that occurred somewhere between 1.1 and 0.7?
What are the chances (if any) of any explanation of the play coming from the Big East?
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 10:31am
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I have watched the Zapruder film on this many times and am convinced that the man with the umbrella standing in section 102 blew the mysterious whistle.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 12:28pm
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A few questions on this play that maybe some of you experts can help me with and maybe will just remain a mystery and can't be answered.

1. Why didn't they reset everything regardless of whether the whistle came from them or the stands? Wouldn't that have been the proper thing to do?

2. Why didn't they go to the monitor to check the time?
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 03:45pm
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Strange Ending to Seton Hall Win - ESPN Video - ESPN

This link is much clearer, and sound is better. You can almost hear someone calling for a timeout at the same time as the whistle blows. It also looks like everyone stops moving at that point. It also looks like Pitino is getting up to get his players together for a timeout.

I think the SH kid thought a timeout was called, stepped on the court to go to his bench, then realized play was still live. So he instinctively threw the ball to the ref, who seems to be asking for it.
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