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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 09:33pm
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Neat InBound Play

Louisville @ Seton Hall tonight. In final seconds of close game, defense challenging, player inbounding takes step across line and then throws ball to referee. Referee throws back to inbounder who makes nice pass to beat the pressure.

I hope a lot of coaches were watching because thats a great play, sort of a 6 on 5.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 09:44pm
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That works until the official just bats the ball to the floor.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 01:45am
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That works until the official just bats the ball to the floor.
Yeah, or the referee ducks the pass, then stands back up to continue his 5 count (he's now on 2) while the ball rolls into the corner. I've seen a referee do exactly that- duck when the ball passed to him.

Stupid idea if it was intentional, too risky in a tight game. Just execute what you run for the game sitch.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 10:29pm
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Louisville @ Seton Hall tonight. In final seconds of close game, defense challenging, player inbounding takes step across line and then throws ball to referee. Referee throws back to inbounder who makes nice pass to beat the pressure.

I hope a lot of coaches were watching because thats a great play, sort of a 6 on 5.
The way this is written, it's a violation. Do mean player who is about to go out of bounds to in bound tosses ball to referee?
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 10:30pm
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The way this is written, it's a violation. Do mean player who is about to go out of bounds to in bound tosses ball to referee?
I took it to mean after a made basket.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 10:42pm
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O.7 seconds left, Louisville has just scored and SH inbounding. Player in bounding takes one step and puts foot onto court. Then he tosses ball back to Referee Tony Greene who returns a sharp pass back to him and then inbounder passes onto court.

If someone can post a clip it would be helpful.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 10:55pm
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O.7 seconds left, Louisville has just scored and SH inbounding. Player in bounding takes one step and puts foot onto court. Then he tosses ball back to Referee Tony Greene who returns a sharp pass back to him and then inbounder passes onto court.

If someone can post a clip it would be helpful.
I think Mr Tony Greene got some 'splainin to do why he didn't hit his whistle for throw-in violation......
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 09:17am
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I think Mr Tony Greene got some 'splainin to do why he didn't hit his whistle for throw-in violation......
Agree. I was watching it live and saw the replays. Thrower with the ball OOB----> count started---> thrower steps on court.

Should be interesting.......but as usual, I ain't judging anybody until I hear the 'splainin'.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 04:17am
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O.7 seconds left, Louisville has just scored and SH inbounding. Player in bounding takes one step and puts foot onto court. Then he tosses ball back to Referee Tony Greene who returns a sharp pass back to him and then inbounder passes onto court.

If someone can post a clip it would be helpful.
Certainly not as clear as watching it on ESPN360 but here is what it looked like for those who don't get ESPN360 or have it Tivo-ed

YouTube - Seaton Hall Louisville Inbound Play 2010

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SmA4ejZjrg

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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 04:42am
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Is it just me, or did it sound like a whistle was blown after the made basket? You can see all the players stop play as if one was blown. That's the only way I can see why the violation wasn't called.
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Old Fri Jan 22, 2010, 07:19am
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Louisville @ Seton Hall tonight. In final seconds of close game, defense challenging, player inbounding takes step across line and then throws ball to referee. Referee throws back to inbounder who makes nice pass to beat the pressure.

I hope a lot of coaches were watching because thats a great play, sort of a 6 on 5.
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Is it just me, or did it sound like a whistle was blown after the made basket? You can see all the players stop play as if one was blown. That's the only way I can see why the violation wasn't called.
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Certainly not as clear as watching it on ESPN360 but here is what it looked like for those who don't get ESPN360 or have it Tivo-ed

YouTube - Seaton Hall Louisville Inbound Play 2010

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YouTube - Seaton Hall Louisville.avi
For those who haven't seen this, you absolutely must have a look.
It says SETON HALL PIRATES across the end line from opposite table to the the tableside with the "ALL P" within the FT lane lines extended.

My observations:
1. There is definitely a whistle following the made 3pt goal by LV. I managed to pause the video at 1.1 after the ball passed through, but the clock runs down to 0.7.
2. All of the players stop due to that sound.
3. The inbounder is on the opposite side of the basket from the new Trail who is tableside. He collects the ball steps OOB with both feet and then carries the ball onto the court by stepping back inbounds with both feet as he seems to be confused. He is about to toss the ball to the covering official, Tony Greene, but then one of his teammate calls for it and the other players start to play. The inbounder is standing with both feet inbounds and turns and looks to make the throw-in pass from that location to his teammate. During this action Greene has counted to two.
4. Tony Greene now steps forward and whistles. The play is clearly dead at this point. He motions the player back behind the line. The player tosses him the ball, and then he throws it back to him and starts the five second count.
5. Rick Pitino, the LV coach, runs down the sideline to argue for a throw-in violation.
6. The Seton Hall player attempts a throw-in pass from between the N and H in SETON HALL, which the LV defender blocks by CLEARLY reaching across the boundary plane and deflecting the ball just after it comes out of the thrower's hands and the ball bounces OOB twice and Greene catches it. The first bounce of the ball seems to be on the P in PIRATES on the tableside part of the end line, which means the ball was in the air for the length of the FT lane. No time comes off the clock during this action!
7. Greene does not penalize the LV player for his infraction. It should be a technical foul, class B.
8. Greene walks Pitino back to his bench and then administers Seton Hall another throw-in.
9. Greene is not precise with where he administers this designated-spot throw-in. The first look that we have is the thrower on the opposite side of the basket from before and on the A in PIRATES. The thrower moves along the end line, more than 3ft in my opinion, and throws the ball in while straddling the I. No violation is called.
10. Seton Hall catches it and is fouled with 0.2 seconds remaining.

What a mess.
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Old Thu Jan 21, 2010, 10:38pm
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Louisville @ Seton Hall tonight. In final seconds of close game, defense challenging, player inbounding takes step across line and then throws ball to referee. Referee throws back to inbounder who makes nice pass to beat the pressure.

I hope a lot of coaches were watching because thats a great play, sort of a 6 on 5.
Lee:
'splain more, please. Having a hard time placing player after player throws ball to official. Is he still in the air towards inbounds or has he alighted inbounds?
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