help with 3 man rotation

[pghboy]

Getting ready to do my first varsity 3 man game and would love some tips on how the rotation works.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by pghboy

Getting ready to do my first varsity 3 man game and would love some tips on how the rotation works.

What do you need to know? When is the game?

Peace

[kbilla]

4:30, just the basics..

[pghboy]

a few weeks. need to know the basic about rotating

[w_sohl]

Calling official always goes table side, except when in the backcourt moving to front court, then you just step out, report and go right back. Lead will NEVER indicate 3 except in the case of a last second shot to help trail and then you will only indicate that a 3 has been attempted and the T or C will detrmine if the shoot was in time. As the C start at about the free throw line extended and work from there, usually no more than a step or two above it unless there is a trap in your corner near the backcourt in which case you will initiate the rotation. As L or C in transition glace to see where your T is that you can make sure you are in the proper position, OK to accidentally have two Ls, but never good to have two Cs. If you make a mistake your partners will help you by filling in. Remember, you guys are probably the only ones that will know you made a mistake unless you are being evaluated.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

Calling official always goes table side, except when in the backcourt moving to front court, then you just step out, report and go right back. Lead will NEVER indicate 3 except in the case of a last second shot to help trail and then you will only indicate that a 3 has been attempted and the T or C will detrmine if the shoot was in time. As the C start at about the free throw line extended and work from there, usually no more than a step or two above it unless there is a trap in your corner near the backcourt in which case you will initiate the rotation. As L or C in transition glace to see where your T is that you can make sure you are in the proper position, OK to accidentally have two Ls, but never good to have two Cs. If you make a mistake your partners will help you by filling in. Remember, you guys are probably the only ones that will know you made a mistake unless you are being evaluated.

So what do you do if a shot is taken behind the line in transition, in the corner and the trail hasn't made it down the court. Remember, this wasn't your only exception to the Lead NEVER signalling a three.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by w_sohl

Calling official always goes table side, except when in the backcourt moving to front court, then you just step out, report and go right back. Lead will NEVER indicate 3 except in the case of a last second shot to help trail and then you will only indicate that a 3 has been attempted and the T or C will detrmine if the shoot was in time. As the C start at about the free throw line extended and work from there, usually no more than a step or two above it unless there is a trap in your corner near the backcourt in which case you will initiate the rotation. As L or C in transition glace to see where your T is that you can make sure you are in the proper position, OK to accidentally have two Ls, but never good to have two Cs. If you make a mistake your partners will help you by filling in. Remember, you guys are probably the only ones that will know you made a mistake unless you are being evaluated.

Lead never has a five count.

[truerookie]

Trail will take a position at or below the 28 foot line and coverage will extend across to opposite side of the free-throw line. Thus 60%

Center will take a position along the sideline at the free throw line where he/she can move two steps above or below that location(free-throw line) to obtain proper angles. Thus 40%. The center also have division line responsibility on their side.

Lead has everything in the lane with assist of the center at times.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by kbilla

4:30, just the basics..

1. Mirror the ball when in the lead.

2. You have 40% coverage when at the Center c

3. You have 60% coverage when at the Trail.

Pregame this with your partners and have fun!

[pghboy]

true rookie, thanks for the info-any more detail on the three points you mentioned

[tomegun]

Yeah, Truerookie expand on your points. I have never heard those percentages.

[kbilla]

Originally Posted by pghboy

true rookie, thanks for the info-any more detail on the three points you mentioned

Do you have an official's manual for 3-person? This will lay out the coverage areas specifically...just a few items off the top of my head...have a patient whistle, give your partner first shot at the action in their primary....this is especially true as the L, don't be quick to reach through the lane to C's area to pull fouls out of there, give C the first shot...same on rebounding action, most of those fouls will come from C or L....get as wide as you can from the L to get the big picture...don't worry a ton about rotations, but L will intiate them, just get across and rotate when you believe you need to be on the other side to officiate the action there. Most rotations start to come naturally, if you are on one side and the ball and 8 players are on the other, then get over there. Don't be lazy as the C and don't bail out, close down a step from the C when the shot goes up... Worry about calling your game, the rest will come - see if you can get out and watch a few 3-person games before your game, this will help you....

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by pghboy

Getting ready to do my first varsity 3 man game and would love some tips on how the rotation works.

We've generated 3 pages and only 2 responses actually address rotation. Rotation is live-ball movement (usually) initiated by the Lead. The Lead will move from one side of the lane to the opposite side. At that point, the former Trail official moves to the free throw line extended, becoming the new Center official; and the former Center official moves to approximately the 28' line and becomes the new Trail.

When should the Lead initiate a rotation? First in high school, we wait until all 10 players and all 3 officials are in the frontcourt before we rotate. We don't do that NBA stuff where they rotate as soon as the ball is over midcourt.

Second, we'll rotate when the ball moves to the Center's side of the court AND:

1. stays there for more than about 2 seconds.
2. there is also a post matchup (high or low post) on the Center's side of the court.
3. you anticipate that there will be a quick drive to the basket.

When should the Lead NOT initiate a rotation?

1. Before all 10 players and all 3 officials are in the frontcourt.
2. After a drive to the basket has started.
3. While a try is in the air.
4. When the offense is running a "weave" and you know that the ball is immediately coming back to your side of the court.

Also, the CENTER official can initiate a rotation when there is heavy pressure on the ball near midcourt on the Center's sideline. In order to officiate that play, the Center must be in the Trail position. So he/she should immediately move toward midcourt. The Lead official must recognize this and complete the rotation.

One thing I tell guys is that we don't want to leave the Center official with the ball AND a post matchup. The Center can handle a 1-on-1 drive to the basket, no problem. But it's much more difficult to officiate the matchup and also the post. So if you see that, then go help with the post play.

I'm sure there are others here who also have some helpful tips on this. I generally tell new guys that if you think you should rotate, then rotate. You can always rotate back. Eventually, you'll get a better feel for it. I do think that you CAN over-rotate (for example, in a weave offense with no shot clock); but generally, as long as you're not a ping-pong ball back and forth, just go and come back if you have to.

(Now, if you really meant that you wanted help with switching -- DEAD ball movement initiated because of a foul call -- then let us know and we can talk about that, too.)

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by pghboy

Getting ready to do my first varsity 3 man game and would love some tips on how the rotation works.

Ok, you've gotten everyone's 2 cents worth here are probably in info overload.

I'm a derivative guy, and learn best by watching others.

You have some time, go catch as many three whistle games as you can and get a feel for it.

I sent you a PM regarding a DVD I can burn for you........