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pghboy Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:22pm

help with 3 man rotation
 
Getting ready to do my first varsity 3 man game and would love some tips on how the rotation works.

JRutledge Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:23pm

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Originally Posted by pghboy
Getting ready to do my first varsity 3 man game and would love some tips on how the rotation works.

What do you need to know? When is the game?

Peace

kbilla Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:24pm

4:30, just the basics..

pghboy Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:25pm

a few weeks. need to know the basic about rotating

truerookie Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:27pm

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Originally Posted by kbilla
4:30, just the basics..

1. Mirror the ball when in the lead.

2. You have 40% coverage when at the Center c

3. You have 60% coverage when at the Trail.

Pregame this with your partners and have fun!

pghboy Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:29pm

true rookie, thanks for the info-any more detail on the three points you mentioned

tomegun Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:33pm

Yeah, Truerookie expand on your points. I have never heard those percentages.

w_sohl Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:33pm

3-Man
 
Calling official always goes table side, except when in the backcourt moving to front court, then you just step out, report and go right back. Lead will NEVER indicate 3 except in the case of a last second shot to help trail and then you will only indicate that a 3 has been attempted and the T or C will detrmine if the shoot was in time. As the C start at about the free throw line extended and work from there, usually no more than a step or two above it unless there is a trap in your corner near the backcourt in which case you will initiate the rotation. As L or C in transition glace to see where your T is that you can make sure you are in the proper position, OK to accidentally have two Ls, but never good to have two Cs. If you make a mistake your partners will help you by filling in. Remember, you guys are probably the only ones that will know you made a mistake unless you are being evaluated.

kbilla Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:36pm

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Originally Posted by pghboy
true rookie, thanks for the info-any more detail on the three points you mentioned

Do you have an official's manual for 3-person? This will lay out the coverage areas specifically...just a few items off the top of my head...have a patient whistle, give your partner first shot at the action in their primary....this is especially true as the L, don't be quick to reach through the lane to C's area to pull fouls out of there, give C the first shot...same on rebounding action, most of those fouls will come from C or L....get as wide as you can from the L to get the big picture...don't worry a ton about rotations, but L will intiate them, just get across and rotate when you believe you need to be on the other side to officiate the action there. Most rotations start to come naturally, if you are on one side and the ball and 8 players are on the other, then get over there. Don't be lazy as the C and don't bail out, close down a step from the C when the shot goes up... Worry about calling your game, the rest will come - see if you can get out and watch a few 3-person games before your game, this will help you....

tomegun Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by w_sohl
Calling official always goes table side, except when in the backcourt moving to front court, then you just step out, report and go right back. Lead will NEVER indicate 3 except in the case of a last second shot to help trail and then you will only indicate that a 3 has been attempted and the T or C will detrmine if the shoot was in time. As the C start at about the free throw line extended and work from there, usually no more than a step or two above it unless there is a trap in your corner near the backcourt in which case you will initiate the rotation. As L or C in transition glace to see where your T is that you can make sure you are in the proper position, OK to accidentally have two Ls, but never good to have two Cs. If you make a mistake your partners will help you by filling in. Remember, you guys are probably the only ones that will know you made a mistake unless you are being evaluated.

So what do you do if a shot is taken behind the line in transition, in the corner and the trail hasn't made it down the court. Remember, this wasn't your only exception to the Lead NEVER signalling a three.

fullor30 Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by w_sohl
Calling official always goes table side, except when in the backcourt moving to front court, then you just step out, report and go right back. Lead will NEVER indicate 3 except in the case of a last second shot to help trail and then you will only indicate that a 3 has been attempted and the T or C will detrmine if the shoot was in time. As the C start at about the free throw line extended and work from there, usually no more than a step or two above it unless there is a trap in your corner near the backcourt in which case you will initiate the rotation. As L or C in transition glace to see where your T is that you can make sure you are in the proper position, OK to accidentally have two Ls, but never good to have two Cs. If you make a mistake your partners will help you by filling in. Remember, you guys are probably the only ones that will know you made a mistake unless you are being evaluated.

Lead never has a five count.

kbilla Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:39pm

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Originally Posted by fullor30
Lead never has a five count.

I know this is true NCAA, I have been told that in NF you count in your primary...

tomegun Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:46pm

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Originally Posted by kbilla
have a patient whistle, give your partner first shot at the action in their primary....this is especially true as the L, don't be quick to reach through the lane to C's area to pull fouls out of there, give C the first shot...

This is getting interesting. Let's think about all the plays that could happen in a basketball game. If you look at all the plays the C would call - plays that are not in a dual area, but clearly in the C's primary - and divide them up into two categories: plays where the Lead should have a whistle and plays where the Lead shouldn't have a whistle. Now, we all know the plays where the Lead should NOT have a whistle will outnumber the others by a mile. Having come to that conclusion, what should that Lead plan for, to call across the lane slow whistle and all or not call across the lane? Common sense would say to plan not to make calls across the lane. Since the OP may get confused with backside help, stop right there! Don't call across the paint. If you feel like you just have to look over there, rotate over there. If you feel like you have to look out top too...well then you are watching the ball and that is a whole different subject. :D

truerookie Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:48pm

Trail will take a position at or below the 28 foot line and coverage will extend across to opposite side of the free-throw line. Thus 60%

Center will take a position along the sideline at the free throw line where he/she can move two steps above or below that location(free-throw line) to obtain proper angles. Thus 40%. The center also have division line responsibility on their side.

Lead has everything in the lane with assist of the center at times.

truerookie Mon Jan 07, 2008 05:51pm

[QUOTE=kbilla] same on rebounding action, most of those fouls will come from C or L....

Don't you mean most rebounding action will come from C or T. Rarely should the lead have a push from behind.


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