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Honestly, the best teams in the postseason can play multiple ways to win. They are not married to a zone where they only win playing that one way. It is great to have something that makes the game more entertaining, but many teams I see still play basketball and do not need to hold the ball to have an advantage. Quote:
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Have you heard about the 2-0 travesty between Bibb County and Brookwood in Alabama? Or the Waseca-Marshall girls game in Minnesota that ended 17-4 after 2 halves of play? These games are rare, but the NBA had seen enough of this nonsense way back in 1954 to decide to institute a shot clock for the next season. This is almost 65 years to the day that a shot clock was implemented in the NBA, yet only a few states have a shot clock (+ DC) on a permanent basis, and a few more states are currently experimenting with shot clocks at tournament games.
As a fan of basketball, I feel that a shot clock is necessary to avoid the possibility of this travesty reappearing. As an official, I believe that the shot clock will improve the game, because I will have to make less decisions about deliberate fouls in the last few minutes of a relatively close (1-3) possession game, and certain rules would be simpler to administer. No one can accuse me of having a fast 10-second count if my count starts at 30 seconds on the shot clock and ends at 20! No one could accuse me of a fast 5-second count closely guarded if I start my count at 17 seconds and call a 5-second violation with 12 (or 11) showing on the shot clock. There will be errors by the officials and table personnel, but that is the cost of having a game played and administered by humans. It just falls on me and my partners to be more clock aware, because it would be more obvious that both game and shot clock fail to start than if just the game clock fails to start. My partners and I would just make the corrections as needed with both the game and shot clock, and instruct both operators carefully before the game (even though that would probably not affect the amount of errors). I mentioned neutral sites because if postseason games use neutral sites with shot clock equipment, there is no cost to install (or bring in) shot clock equipment for those games. Last edited by ilyazhito; Mon Jan 14, 2019 at 05:53pm. |
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A quick google search shows 37,000 high schools in the US. Let's say a about a quarter of them have shot clocks now. That leaves about 28,000 of them. At $7500 per gym (which I believe was the estimate above) that's $210 million to have shot clocks at every school. So for a handful of games that have a stalling "travesty"*--and they make the news because they are rare--there should be over $200 million spent out of school budgets. (About 2/3 of that is public schools.)
In my experience, I kinda like the shot clock. In high quality high school play, it doesn't have a huge impact on the game, except in the final couple of minutes when it does reduce (not eliminate) deliberate fouling. And, at the risk of being overly snarky, if a ref needs a shot clock to make his life easier, perhaps the ref should find something else to do with his time. ______ * I think the travesty concept is overblown balderdash. If you don't like the other team stalling, go get the freaking ball from them. |
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The rest of your post about traffic lights and the such I didn't bother to read.
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And high schools (generally) can't adapt -- they have to use the kids who are in their district. Colleges (recruiting) and pros (drafting) can get the players -- and there are far fewer of them than HSs.
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You can use the game clock for the exact same things you say the shot clock would be helpful for. You act like you can just throw a shot clock into the game and everything will be all fine and dandy. At least in my area, there are 30-year "veteran" officials that haven't made any attempt to improve in 29 years. Now all of a sudden we're going to entrust them with knowing shot clock rules and catching/fixing table errors? Or we're going to use it for the postseason after going the entire regular season without it? You come across as so ignorant it's disturbing. The idea that the shot clock makes things easier for officials is utter nonsense. The only thing that screws up a game more than a bad table and having to fix the SC every other possession, is a bad table and officials who aren't competent enough to catch and fix SC errors. |
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The shot clock was thrown into the game for boys in MD, and for both genders in DC. Girls officials have been using a shot clock since MD adopted one in 1970, but boys officials only started using one in 2017 (when the MPSSAA adopted a shot clock for boys). To prepare for the change, Al Battista, the rules interpreter, made a presentation about new rules (including the shot clock rule for boys), and the MPSSAA released cards with the shot clock and mercy rule information on them to be distributed to officials (I have both the 2017-18 edition, from when the 35-second shot clock was introduced, and this year's edition, with the change to a 30-second shot clock for boys). The system seems to be working, even if there are veteran officials who have stopped progressing. DC also seems to have taken the shot clock in stride ever since it was implemented.
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But, hey, what do I know, I've only been doing this for thirty-eight years compared to ilyazhito's, what, fifty-plus years?
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My point is you want to change a rule for one or two situations we might hear about. That is not the norm or even the issue. A lot of teams in my state play uptempo and a shot clock would only complicate things. Peace
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Your shot clock would lead to more decisions in general, exactly the point of my post, really didn't need your quote, I hope that you ducked because it went right over your head, just missed. Sounds like you don't like, or lack self confidence, making end of game decisions regarding intentional/non intentional fouls. While that's certainly fair, you are also willing to trade fewer of these decisions for thirty minutes of decisions regarding more shots, more rushed shots, more misses, more rebounds, etc. Yeah, that's exactly what experienced officials like in their games, more shots, more rushed shots, more misses, and more rebounds. The more the merrier. These situations just make the game so much easier to work, even a cavemen can do it. And please explain again how a shot clock will help with five second closely guarded calls, help that a game clock, or a video and a stopwatch won't provide?
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