Free Throw admin- NBA

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

How about just count to 10 and then call the violation?


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10 seconds only applies once the ball is at the FT shooter's disposal.

As I understand it, this is to curb delays before that. Some guys like to walk around and do all kind of stuff before stepping to the line. Russell Westbrook was a regular culprit of this. Some have even suggested this has contributed to his FT % dropping nearly 14% this season compared to last.

I'm not sure how consequential it is overall but for some reason I like the way they administer it.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

10 seconds only applies once the ball is at the FT shooter's disposal.

So, if the rule is the same as NFHS, put the ball on the floor and start counting. Or, if players were taking too much time to get in place, call a DOG. Use the rules in place, don't change the official's mechanics to accommodate.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by bucky

So, if the rule is the same as NFHS, put the ball on the floor and start counting. Or, if players were taking too much time to get in place, call a DOG. Use the rules in place, don't change the official's mechanics to accommodate.

Perhaps you'd favor us with a dissertation, based on your boundless NBA rules expertise, on the relevant rules at play in this situation. Please distinguish from 1st throw and 2nd throw, if you please.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by bucky

So, if the rule is the same as NFHS, put the ball on the floor and start counting. Or, if players were taking too much time to get in place, call a DOG. Use the rules in place, don't change the official's mechanics to accommodate.

OMG the accommodating horror of changing the mechanic of administering a FT.

Thanks but no thanks. I'll take the way the NBA chose to deal with it over having the L walk up the FT line and place the ball down.....and then have the C initiate a count.

[HokiePaul]

Originally Posted by bucky

So, if the rule is the same as NFHS, put the ball on the floor and start counting. Or, if players were taking too much time to get in place, call a DOG. Use the rules in place, don't change the official's mechanics to accommodate.

Well if you wanted to put the ball on the floor and start a count, having the C administer the free throw makes it easier to do that too.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Well if you wanted to put the ball on the floor and start a count, having the C administer the free throw makes it easier to do that too.

Perhaps, however the distance traveled to the FT line by the C to do that is basically the same as the L.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

OMG the accommodating horror of changing the mechanic of administering a FT.

Thanks but no thanks. I'll take the way the NBA chose to deal with it over having the L walk up the FT line and place the ball down.....and then have the C initiate a count.

Originally Posted by HokiePaul

Well if you wanted to put the ball on the floor and start a count, having the C administer the free throw makes it easier to do that too.

Originally Posted by bucky

Perhaps, however the distance traveled to the FT line by the C to do that is basically the same as the L.

All irrelevant. You don't use resumption of play on a FT, its a delay of game if anything.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by frezer11

All irrelevant. You don't use resumption of play on a FT, its a delay of game if anything.

That is news to me. Citation?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is news to me. Citation?

After a TO, ROP is used for both.

Not after a TO, if A1 isn't at the spot for a throw-in, put the ball on the floor. If A1 is not available for a FT, it's a T. (And, yes, ther's plenty of game management to do before we get to either of those results, of course)

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by frezer11

All irrelevant. You don't use resumption of play on a FT, its a delay of game if anything.

You do if it’s after a timeout or intermission (NFHS).

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

That is news to me. Citation?

Originally Posted by SC Official

You do if it’s after a timeout or intermission (NFHS).

First off, I did look, and don't deny that I'm incorrect. Rules clearly state that you do use ROP after a timeout or intermission. Now all that said, why? Can you (or anyone else) help clarify this for me? Why place the ball on the ground and begin the count? And the reason I ask is because the way I read and interpret the rules, the free thrower is not allowed to be outside of the semicircle until after the release (9-1-3-e), so the moment you place the ball on the floor (at the thrower's disposal), then they are simultaneously violating, and as this is an offensive violation, the ball should immediately become dead. I don't see a provision in the rules that allows the shooter to enter the semicircle and attempt the shot. What am I missing?