Wrong name in book

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Changing a name or a number is a T.

Rule?

[VaTerp]

Unless there is evidence that they were purposefully trying to be deceitful, I'm treating this as an administrative error and moving on.

Others mileage may vary but I'm confident this is how the people I work for would want this handled.

Don't be that guy issuing a T here unless your assingors/supervisors have expressed otherwise.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

Unless there is evidence that they were purposefully trying to be deceitful, I'm treating this as an administrative error and moving on.

Others mileage may vary but I'm confident this is how the people I work for would want this handled.

Don't be that guy issuing a T here unless your assingors/supervisors have expressed otherwise.

Of course it's an administrative error, that's why it's an administrative technical. It's a T to add a name to the book which is what you have to do here.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Of course it's an administrative error, that's why it's an administrative technical. It's a T to add a name to the book which is what you have to do here.

To add a name would be to increase the total number of team members. Such is not the case here.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by just another ref

To add a name would be to increase the total number of team members. Such is not the case here.

Was the name there before? Is it there now? It's been added.

"No, it was changed." How was it changed? You took one name off and added a new one.

I'm always amazed at the lengths some members of this forum will go to bail out coaches and players from technical fouls.

[just another ref]

The key word here is require.

"A team shall not require the scorer to change a player or team member's number in the scorebook.

If a number is wrong, the scorer is required to change it in order to accurately keep up with what happens in the game. If a name is wrong...... it means nothing.

[jeremy341a]

My opinion it was a T either under 10-1-1 as they did not supply them with the name of all players that may participate or under 10-1-2 as they had to add the correct name and then change the number to him.

I don't think it was in this occasion but it is possible they were using the wrong name to skate the quarter limitation set by the state.

[bainsey]

Reminds me an odd one from pre-season:

Assigner sends me and a college veteran official to a tiny, 66ish-foot gym for a middle school pair. I'm the R for game one, and it's the first time I've ever seen the book with FIRST names only.

It gave me pause, but I left it alone. Never bothered to follow up if it was legal.

Tiny middle schools can be fun -- homemade concessions, stopping to teach the kids what they did wrong, and some old timer in the crowd asking if there is a "10-point rule." (Must be a can't-press thing.)

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Was the name there before? Is it there now? It's been added.

"No, it was changed." How was it changed? You took one name off and added a new one.

I'm always amazed at the lengths some members of this forum will go to bail out coaches and players from technical fouls.

Why be a d-bag and give a T for something like this? It has no bearing on the game at all. Who cares what their name is? All we really need is the correct amount of players in the book with their correct number. I couldn't care less what their real name is to some degree. If it's a simple error on one name and not an obvious skirting of the rules I'm not going to worry about it.

I'm always amazed at the lengths some members of this forum will go to get themselves noticed with an unnecessary technical foul.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Of course it's an administrative error, that's why it's an administrative technical. It's a T to add a name to the book which is what you have to do here.

I meant book keeping error, which I'm treating it as and not issuing a T.

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Was the name there before? Is it there now? It's been added.

I'm always amazed at the lengths some members of this forum will go to bail out coaches and players from technical fouls.

Well, since this doesn't involve a coach or player technical nobody is bailing anyone out of anything.

I'm always amazed at the lengths that some will go to to penalize teams who are not gaining any advantage not intended by rule by enforcing the strictest possible interpretation of some rules.

[Raymond]

I can't find anywhere that says it is a T to change a name. Changing a number is explicitly stated as a T.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Rule?

10-2-2.

The name of a player was not in the book and had to be added. They also had to change the number to the correct player.

The name is what identifies who is playing. If that player is not listed in the book, they must be added. Opposing teams don't plan for which numbers are playing but which individuals are playing. The number just facilitates the bookkeeping.

[genetoy71]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Rule?

3-2-2:
At least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time, each team shall supply the official scorer with the NAME and NUMBER of each team member and designate the five starting players. Failure to comply results in a technical foul. (10-1-1 PENALTY)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by genetoy71

3-2-2:
At least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time, each team shall supply the official scorer with the NAME and NUMBER of each team member and designate the five starting players. Failure to comply results in a technical foul. (10-1-1 PENALTY)

A name and number was provided. The name was later changed. You cannot find any citations which state that changing the name is a technical.

[genetoy71]

Originally Posted by Raymond

A name and number was provided. The name was later changed. You cannot find any citations which state that changing the name is a technical.

The rule doesn't state, as you quoted "A" name and number to be provided. The rule requires THE name and number of each team member...

Words mean things. "A" is very different from "THE".