Disconcerting the FT shooter

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I am joining this thread late, but I would recommend that we all take a look at this thread from 2003: https://forum.officiating.com/basket...day-night.html

MTD, Sr.

I read some of it Mark. I think the word "opponent" is broad enough to say I can call disconcertion on bench personnel. I do not believe opponent is limited to players on the floor. Meriam Webster says it is a person, team or group competing against another....

Yes, there are some case plays where opponent means player on court. Rule 3 talks generally about equipment and uses opponent in that to be anybody on team. Possession arrow is pointed at "opponents basket." That is a broad general use.

Now, when this happens at the bench it probably is more like unsportsmanlike. It depends on the level. Younger kids may not know it isn't right etc.

Anyway, I choose to use a broader definition of opponent. I can call disconcertion on the OPs play if I want to. I could also call the unsportsmanlike T.
However, I don't think an unsportsmanlike T on the first time this happens will make my game better. I'll give another FT and make it known that it better not happen again.

I like having more options.

[billyu2]

Would you repeat that question?:

V4 is shooting 2nd FT at the end of a game.

Entire home team (1) stands and (2) shouts (3) just before V4 goes into her shooting motion, (4) and, as she shoots.

Ruling:

a. Tell them to knock it off before making the call.
b. Ignore it.
c. Calling something would be looking for trouble.
d. Do not call it the first time.
e. Advise the coach of the rule.
f. Looking for opportunities to call T’s will open a can of worms.
g. A replacement FT is all you need.
h. There doesn’t need to be a T on the players for standing.
i. Officials looking for things like this to call never get selected to go to the
state tournament.
j. Assess a team technical to Home Team and disconcertion violation if
needed.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Question:

V4 is shooting 2nd FT at the end of a game.

Entire home team (1) stands and (2) shouts (3) just before V4 goes into her shooting motion, (4) and, as she shoots.

Ruling:

a. Tell them to knock it off before making the call.
b. Ignore it.
c. Calling something would be looking for trouble.
d. Do not call it the first time.
e. Advise the coach of the rule.
f. Looking for opportunities to call T’s will open a can of worms.
g. A replacement FT is all you need.
h. There doesn’t need to be a T on the players for standing.
i. Officials looking for things like this to call never get selected to go to the
state tournament.
j. Assess a team technical to Home Team and disconcertion violation if
needed.

I know I would make them sit down. If I was trail I'd be sitting them down. If they start making noise before the Free thrower goes in motion and continues making noise I'm likely not calling disconcertion or anything else. The OP was silence and then screaming at critical moment. This is different. I'd have to hear it but I wouldn't say kids can't make noise. I expect a shooter to get through that.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Would you repeat that question?:

V4 is shooting 2nd FT at the end of a game.

Entire home team (1) stands and (2) shouts (3) just before V4 goes into her shooting motion, (4) and, as she shoots.

Ruling:

a. Tell them to knock it off before making the call.
b. Ignore it.
c. Calling something would be looking for trouble.
d. Do not call it the first time.
e. Advise the coach of the rule.
f. Looking for opportunities to call T’s will open a can of worms.
g. A replacement FT is all you need.
h. There doesn’t need to be a T on the players for standing.
i. Officials looking for things like this to call never get selected to go to the
state tournament.
j. Assess a team technical to Home Team and disconcertion violation if
needed.

If the FT was critical to this team then I'm calling a violation. If it isn't I'm going to let the bench know the next time it will be a violation.

Most likely I'm sitting them before the FT is even shot. As an ex player if this throws your FT shot off you're not concentrating and/or a good FT shooter in the first place.

In no way am I dropping this T as a first recourse. Coaches, even some partners (although they won't tell me to my face), already ding me enough for being a "tighter" official on enforcing the rules and I know that costs me some games. But it's part of our rating process. Coaches and officials determine our ratings.