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Okay, you have an incorrect understanding.
There is nothing wrong with twisting or turning the non-pivot foot while the other foot remains in the air. The definition of pivot was provided by Camron and involves stepping with the other foot while one foot is kept in contact with the floor. That would be illegal when done with the non-pivot foot as the other foot would touch the floor again by definition. |
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There was a game-winning basket made in the NCAA tournament a few years ago by Georgetown's Jeff Green against Vanderbilt in this exact manner. Please do an Internet search for the video.
We had a fairly extensive thread on the play on this forum as the TV announcers initially incorrectly screamed for a travel. The NCAA announced that the move was perfectly legal. |
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Yes, the 2007 game was the one. I do not know of any difference in the NCAAM traveling rule from the NFHS rule. Here are two threads we had on that situation: https://forum.officiating.com/basket...diots-too.html https://forum.officiating.com/basket...-incident.html Last edited by Nevadaref; Sun Jan 10, 2016 at 07:46pm. |
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see 4.44.3.a & 4.44.3.b
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Not exclusively. See the case book play I cited earlier.
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Still incorrect.
"NFHS 4.44.2A: Dribbler A1 catches the ball with the right foot touching the floor and then jumps off that foot an alights on both feet simultaneously... RULING: ... it is a violation if A1 pivots on either foot." In this case book play which you cited, after completing this jumpstop A1 may still jump in order to pass or shoot. A1 can certainly lift either foot, he just can't put it back down. |
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The sit. you cited refers specifically to when a player may or may not pivot relative to a jump stop when receiving a pass.
See the definition of pivot from 4.33 that Camron cited: A pivot takes place when a player who is holding the ball steps once, or more than once, in any direction with the same foot while the other foot, called the pivot foot, is kept at its point of contact with the floor. To "step" you must pick up a foot and put it back down.
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Not arguing that, but that's not the sole definition of travelling.
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I provided the NFHS definition for a standing player holding the ball with the exception of one who falls to the floor (NFHS definition is touching with other than a hand or foot). Otherwise NFHS traveling only covers a player who secures control while already on the floor, but that wasn't relevant to your situation or questions about a pivot.
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